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Date Posted: Mon 2003-09-01 10:56:46
Author: Redeye
Subject: Re: Trying to deal with "organicism"
In reply to: arendt 's message, "Trying to deal with "organicism"" on Sun 2003-08-31 19:57:03

B. As far as I understand, speciation is simply a term to describe a stage when phenotypes diverge so much from the originals that they can't reproduce with those having them. And still, your claim isn't valid because even if its accuracy and simplicity are on a par with the other explanations, it's still only one of many. I'm a math major; among other things, it means I don't tolerate so high a level of uncertainty.

D. The form of communism I attack is best defined the way Old Major talks of animal struggle at the beginning of Animal Farm - all animals are equal, every animal must work continuously and completely for the Rebellion against humanity even if the Rebellion doesn't come in its lifetime, and the animals most sacrifice themselves for the animal community.

While I loathe corporatism as much as I do communism (let's say it that way: I'm outlining a book that features a corporate dystopia, not a communistic one), I look at it from a different perspective. Corporations basically subordinate human beings to existent capitalist structures and to money; while all complex socities have the problem of work becoming a good to some degree rather than the necessary evil it should be looked at, libertarian societies take this problem to its extreme. In other words, I don't think that the ant colony argument applies to corporate-controlled societies, but other arguments do.

E. By semi-Darwinistic, I mean that on the one hand the mechanism should produce something similar to natural selection, whereas on the other it should not kill, oppress, improverish, or otherwise hurt people while doing so.

On another note, I think we're dealing with the wrong sort of questions. Rather than try and present concrete ideas for this new form of government - the way legislatures are elected, the specific SLs and DLs, specific mechanisms in the government, etc. - we're debating stuff and not getting too far.

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I agree with you - I need a break from all this debating -- arendt, Tue 2003-09-02 14:18:33
- Right... -- Redeye, Wed 2003-09-03 23:20:44