Date Posted:14:05:59 04/24/12 Tue Author: Greg Subject: Re: Strip search for traffic ticket? In reply to:
Paul Davis
's message, "Re: Strip search for traffic ticket?" on 18:12:40 04/23/12 Mon
>>>>>>>Just MHO, the SCOTUS has pretty much become
>>>>paranoid.
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>>>>>>So other than thinking that the SCOTUS is
>paranoid,
>>>>>>what problem do you have with this ruling?
>>>>>
>>>>>The part of the constitution that says citizens are
>>>to
>>>>>be secure from unreasonable search and seizure. It
>>>is
>>>>>unreasonable to declare everyone who has a traffic
>>>>>ticket to be suspected of being a drug smuggler,
>>>which
>>>>>is the only legitimate reason I can think of for a
>>>>>strip search. This is going to be used to
>>intimidate
>>>>>citizens and that will be the primary function.
>>From
>>>>>this day forwards, it's not "cooperate or we are
>>>going
>>>>>downtown" it's "cooperate or get stripped and
>>>probed".
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>>>>>Why are you comfortable with this decision?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The safety of the correctional officers is somewhat
>>>>more important than the dignity of the person
>>>arrested.
>>>
>>>They seem to have managed OK for the last 200 odd
>>>years. What's the new risk that's greater than
>>>anything in the past?
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>>Lot smaller incarcerated population 200 years ago.
>>Drugs weren't the problem.
>
>Yes, nobody worried about drugs, they weren't illegal
>until after my father was born. It really hasn't been
>that long and I've never seen the necessity of saving
>people from themselves with this "burn the village to
>save it" business. But this is not about either
>safety or drugs, this is about punishment before you
>even get charged. It's about making jail an
>uncomfortable experience to such an extreme that we
>will cooperate without going to jail. IMHO, its far
>more likely to result in simple hate for government
>that has no respect for dignity of the citizens.
You may be right, OTOH, look at the treatment of persons just a few decades ago when they entered a jail or police station (confessions regularly beaten out of suspects, incarceration until someone felt like taking you before a judge, etc.)
Mind you, I think the "War on Drugs" is sheer idiocy, but I don't think that those incarcerated need to be allowed to get high anytime they feel like it either.
