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] Date Posted: 10:21:25 04/11/16 Mon In reply to: Kurt Priessman 's message, "Re: Agent Orange exposure at Utapo AFB ?" on 22:41:03 10/25/07 Thu stationed at utapao in 1969 to 1970. healing from operation of lung cancer.FILED FOR AGENT ORANGE EXPOSURE waiting to hear.I hung out at the beach a lot as I didn't have to much funds at the time and the bweach was a cheaop relaxation area.I remembered getting sprayed while in the movie outdoor theatre,the open air restaurant and the beach break trailer.If I would have known then what I know now I probably wouldn't have hung out there.love to here fron any of my long lost friends from the sheet metal shop. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: William Scott Nelms (TOTAL VA BS ON U-T AO) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:17:03 11/25/16 Fri I was a KC Pilot who did 4 TDY's at U-T. The VA after 40 years of coverup admitted that Agent Orange was sprayed at U-T as late as the 2nd Half of 1972 in the 1973 Checo report that you can find on line. It was very very obvious to me that defoliants were constantly used at U-T. My last TDY was Nov 4, 1972 to Jan 27, it was even apparent from the air as I came in to land that the area around the flight line had been super zapped. It looked like desert, no green even outside the flight line perimeter. It was even more obvious when I went down to the base beach rec center. The area between the beach and the flightline, maybe a half mile at the most. Looked like burnt toast. I later found out a huge beef up in security after the Jan 10, 72 sapper attack where NVA special forces were actually able to place explosives in a #7 engine of a B-52. Anyway, since the very large base beach rec area is directly on the perimeter and open to any base personnel. EVERYONE STATIONED AT U-T, WOULD BE DIRECTLY ON THE PERIMETER, LIKELY BAREFOOT. A crucial fact, The runway which ends about 1/4th a mile from the beach is at 43 ft above sea level. All foliage between the runway and flight line always was defoliated every time I went there. Which was every year from 70 to 73. But 72/73 that area was obviously super zapped. The rainly season would have always washed any toxins up on that highly defoliated slope down onto the sand of the beach. It was likely the most contaminated perimeter of the base. And the base perimeter was 18.5 miles as revealed in the Checo Report that goes into each Thai base. Within weeks of my returning to Ellsworth in Jan 73, i begin to have skin issues. First hands, then feet and face. In Aug 73 i became a civilian and the skin conditions worsen. I go to a civilian dermatologist and he instantly diagnosis' it as toxic industrial chemicals. He refers me to the VA. They examined me and gave me 10% SC for dermatitist and some other terms. It keep getting worse and eventually covered my entire body with rashs, chicken pox looking bumps, open sores, then psoriasis. I go back to the VA (1977) for an exam, I told the VA doc that the civilian doc said it was toxic industrial chemicals and he agreed. He asked where I had been stationed and I said U-T TDY and Ellsworth and said he would check and see if there were any known other cases like mine and get back to me. I never heard anything but they raised my skin disorder to 30%. About 7 years after leaving U-T all skin conditions had completely disappered. Just as my civilian dermatologist says happens when the skin condition is from exposure to strong toxins. He did say that I might be further affected internally which I have with many many autoimmune/inflamatory disorders. I did not even hear of Agent Orange/Vet health issues until around 1990. I saw an a AO victim interviewed on the news, and he described how his started out and it was a skin condition that sounded exactly like I had. But he then had serious cancer. I contacted the VA about my skin condition now sounding like AO, they pulled up my file and said that it could be classsified as chloracne which is presumptive AO disease. I had to file a claim, in maybe late 90's early 2000's it was quickly denied saying it was not used in Thailand, thus it could not have been AO. I forgot about it. Then in about 2012, I saw the bombshell report that the VA now admits after 40 years of a massive coverup that AO was indeed used in Thailand, but ONLY inside of US bases. They were not allowed to spray outside. I am positive they spray far more than the perimeter. So, I refiled my claim now with the VA as I now have heart disease along with much more. This claim was denied saying a pilot was not on the perimeter, so I could not have been exposed. I tried to tell them about the beach perimeter, where they had a life guard tower next to a security guard tower was open to all and I spents lots of time there as I was from FL and loved the scenic Thai beach rec center, where I spent lots of time with a pilot only flying about every two days. I even had my old U-T sailing club card, showing I had qaulified in 2 models of sail boats the rec center allowed personnel to use but the system is rigged for Thai Vets. The plan is to deny til we die. To add insult to injury. The Navy Blue water Vets bill has already passed the house and in the Senate. That will allow Navy Vietnam Vets at sea to claim benefits for AO presumptive diseases. Vets who ever came ashore in Vietnam. It might be a good time for all to contact their Senator quickly and tell them of the rigged system for Thai Vets where we were lied to for 40 years about AO in Thailand, and now still being stonewalled when the VA cannot even give the definition of "near". Thai Vets have to show we were on or near the perimeter of the base. A "near" miss in airplanes can be more than a mile. How near to the Vietnam coast will Navy Vets need to qualify for AO benefits. THIS IS A TOTAL DISRESPECT OF ALL THAI VETS AND A COMPLETE LACK OF COMMON SENSE BY THE VA. If anyone wants to contact me, my e mail is "old_guys_rule@yahoo.com". Scott [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: carlo gerace /cgerace60@aol.com (lACK OF RESPONSIBILITY) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:47:04 07/07/17 Fri the DEPT of Defense and VA are working together on this.The va says you must have official direct exposure.That means you need an official witness for everything you did over there. We need to push our senators and congressmen for action. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Stewart (Roll) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:09:24 01/09/19 Wed Dear Scott: I was at Utapao from October 1970 - 1971, and probably handed you your mission material which I prepared at the 307th. I've filed a claim for Type 2 diabetes, and peripheral neuropathy in my feet and hands. Turned down, and itching to move to the next step. I'm now a trial lawyer and practice in Ohio. Let me know if you'd like to chat. I'm also a pilot now, who would love to hear what you saw landing from the Gulf of Thailand. I used to sail at that beach and saw movies at the outdoor theatre. Best. Stewart D. Roll sdanl@msn.com 216-469-6003 [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |