Date Posted:04:07:49 08/07/03 Thu Author: Ray Subject: Re: The Noahide system of law In reply to:
QUITTNER
's message, "Re: The Noahide system of law" on 10:57:41 05/30/03 Fri
>rf, as I see it, very many changes were made to
>Christianity after Jesus was crucified.
Christianty didn't even truly get off the ground until after Jesus was crucified. Only then was the Holy Spirit able to come and dwell in the hearts of the disciples.
>Originally Christians were a special group of Jews, > including Jesus, who always OBEYED God (not the Romans?
> not clergy?) and sinned no more.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
Originally Christians were a chosen group of humans.
It was indeed in the Palestinian province called Judea
that Jesus came, and the Old Testament preparation for His coming had occurred there, and had involved the local people who were called Jews. So yes the first disciples of Jesus were Jews.
But the angels at His birth announced good tidings of great joy that would be to ALL peoples. And even in the Old Testament; when God spoke to Abraham of Jesus, the Seed of Abraham, He said that in Him ALL nations (goyim) would be blessed. So the fact that the initial disciples were Jewish
doesn't at all suggest that Jewishness was a prerequisite to being a disciple.
As to not sinning, you need to reread the scriptures. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Only a liar or a fool pretends to be anything but a sinner. Jesus came to call sinners to repentence. He cannot help the "righteous".
And yes indeed, the Christians obeyed the Romans. The ordained power that God had placed over them. Jesus said to render under Caesar the things that were Caesars' (taxes etc). But the Christians didn't obey the antichrist Pharisees who had no such legal authority.
These days, as far as I
>know, the will of God (THY WILL BE DONE...) is not
>enforced by clergy, only by the secular judicial
>systems. Was the Noahide system of law part of the
>WILL of God?
The will of God is enforced by God himself. It has never been enforced by clergy of any kind. That is the very AC plan in a nutshell, "Man" trying to impose his own rule and pass it off as the will of God. When that happens God gets very mad.
And no the Talmudic set of rules you call the Noahide Laws (ridiculous to call it a system of Law) were never a part of anything except the imagination of a lot of lost and very confused Kabalists in exile during the middle ages. They certainly never had the least thing to do with the will of God.
