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Subject: Opera vs welsh

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Andrew

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Date Posted: 17:11:50 01/06/05 Thu
In reply to: Ed Harris (London) 's message, "The state?" on 16:56:23 01/06/05 Thu

"Crikey, the State is supposed to be educating people now, is it? Gawd help us."

I mean "education" in the broadest sense of the word. The 1872 Education act meant that effectively all education had to be done through English, whether or not the child spoke it or not. It's only recently that's been reversed. It would have been far better to teach them English through their own language than give them teachers who spoke nothing else and used corporal punishment to enforce it. The only reason there's any Welsh tv is due to hunger strikes. More people speak Welsh than are interested in opera, but the BBC had no problem showing opera from the year dot.

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Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 17:32:50 01/06/05 Thu

Less than 40% of the Welsh speak Welsh, less than half of that as a first language. Speaking Welsh does not mean one does not like Opera and it would be silly to think the majority of Welsh speakers (those that have it as second language) prefer to watch those frankly rather poor quality Welsh-language sitcoms other than as extra revision on spekaing.

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Author: Andrew [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:49:18 01/06/05 Thu Owain, as you know, Opera is a mainly upper class minority interest, yet it has always been publicly funded up to the eyeballs. There's been no deliberate attempts here to wipe it out. Yet I think it's a fairly good bet that more people know a good deal of Welsh in the UK than are hardcore opera fans. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:24:34 01/06/05 Thu There are more upper class Englishmen than there are Welshmen let alone those that speak Wlesh so I find that unlikely. Oh and at the Welsh "national" opera they have operatic performances in Welsh. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]