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] Date Posted: 14:21:43 01/10/05 Mon In reply to: Ed Harris (back in London) 's message, "Hm, let's start at the beginning..." on 20:05:11 01/05/05 Wed "Not the Maoris, of course, but then they are no more native to Aro Te Aroa than we were." The Maori are more native than the Pakeha, because of the simple fact that they were there several hundred years longer. Don't forget they were in NZ when England was still a province of Normandy! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ian (native of Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:06:50 01/10/05 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Randy [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:25:44 01/10/05 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: you aren't seriously suggesting that Maoris are a different species from the rest of us, are you Randy? | |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:25:48 01/10/05 Mon If you want to discuss it at the species level, then surely you would have to say that homo sapiens as a whole either is or is not native to New Zealand. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Maoris have been there longer and had the land taken off them. The previous lot are gone. The Maoris are still there. | |
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Author: It's time to give it back. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:57:21 01/12/05 Wed HOW CAN YOU SLEEP WHEN YOUR BEDS ARE BURNING? - MIDNIGHT OIL [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (London) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:31:12 01/10/05 Mon That's just the point, laddie. They were there several hundred years longer, and managed to make several hundred animal species and at least one human civilisation completely extinct. Specifically, they ate them all, animals and humans. In all the time that we've been there, the Brits have got rid of maybe a dozen animal species and no human cultures. I like the modern Maoris, but they were rather savage invaders of New Zealand originally, in a way which makes the evil Anglo-Saxons seem like the most good-natured Swiss. Moreover, if you claim that a nation should belong to the people who were first there, then there are a few completely extinct tribes which should rule NZ, and all humans generally should be ruled from the Zambesi Delta (that's Robert Mugabe's stomping ground). As for them being there when England was a province of Normany, it could be argued that the Normans were Scandinavian primitives before they discovered that ships could take them places, and Britain was governed from Rome even before that, and by Welsh druids before that. When do you stop? Perhaps we should dissolve parliament and find some dark-haired, blue-eyed Celts on the Isle of Man to rule us from the Tynwald, which, after all, was the centre of the Scandinavian Empire and has been going for at least 1200 years... Mind you, their present ruler, old Ian Macfadyen, might blench at ruling Britain, since he seems to undertand very little which doesn't have two wings and a jet engine. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |