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Subject: anti-americanism


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Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 16:40:31 01/11/05 Tue
In reply to: Andrew(Canada) 's message, "americans..." on 05:42:50 01/11/05 Tue

Anti-americanism is one of those sad facts of life that many people just cant help feeling and its not there fault. I used to be very anti-ameircan, but I feel I have got over it, probably the only person who has partly as a result of Bush. Apart from some certain ideological adjustments, I honestly cant imagine doing things much different were I in the American position.

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Ed Harris (London)
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Date Posted: 16:55:50 01/11/05 Tue


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Andrew(Canada)
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Date Posted: 07:55:04 01/13/05 Thu

so the US finally stopped searching for WMDs...i could imagine doing a lot of things different if i were in there position, mainly making sure my own doorstep was clean before i went to clean other peoples, if you get my meaning...

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Ed Harris (London)
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Date Posted: 10:31:25 01/13/05 Thu

... that Britain and America should not complain about anyone having WMDs until all of ours are dismantled first, thereby avoiding hypocrisy?

It's an interesting argument. Rather like the Women of Greenham Common and all the rest of the CND mob. Also, I think we tried it in the twenties, when we were the only country to bother to keep to its Versailles Treaty amrmaments limits (frankly, I think we were glad to save the money), and it didn't work too well.

THe argument, as I have always understood it, is that so long as anyone else has them we have to, because the others can't be trusted. If we say "Well, if we get rid of all our nukes, h-bombs, VX gas cylinders etc, will you guys in CHina and suchlike be good little tyrants and get rid of yours?" "Sure thing, boss." "Okay then." Not a very clever conversation.

The snag is that, not even responsible governments can trust us to disarm either, so we get stalemate. If I'm honest, I acknowledge that considerably better minds than mine have pondered this problem and not reached any conclusions.

Ban the Bomb! Four More Years! Hey, hey, LBJ etc.

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