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Subject: Sans argent, l'honneur n'est qu'une maladie.


Author:
Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 16:53:15 12/05/04 Sun
In reply to: Steph (U.S.) 's message, "Moving the FCS Forward" on 17:54:17 12/03/04 Fri

One of the things which makes the CANZUK countries so similar to each other and so very different from the USA is our innate tendency to think of a hundred reasons for not doing something. The resulting character of our evolution is organic ('our vegetable love could grow, larger than empires, and as slow'), and this has been beneficial in some ways, particularly in terms of stability and our rejection of anything overtly radical. This is great when we look at the difficulties of sledghammering Britain into the EU, or the abject failure to convince the British people that more taxes are a good idea; but the flip side of the coin is that we are forced to gnash our teeth in frustration when an idea of which we approve comes along, as it might be Commonwealth Federation.

Nevertheless, in keeping with this congenital tendency to be awkward, I'd like to point out a few problems with your suggestions. Firstly, students in this country are quite useless at doing anything apart from reading. Agitation is a thing of the past, along with many another old goodie like smoking and drinking. Our undergraduates are never happier than when tucked up with a glass of mineral water, a rice-cake and a book on logorithmic algorithms, Employment Law, or some such thing - unlike European students who prefer to stay in bars drinking wine and smoking lethal cigarettes until 4 a.m. arguing about politics and deciding to chain themselves to something in protest or in support of some crackpot idea.

Secondly, your 'cornerstones of civilisation' - trial by jury, representative democracy, free speech and free press - are being quietly killed off in Britain, since the socialists have found them increasingly inconvenient lately. Jury trials and free speech have already gone, the free press is under increasing attack (how many people in Britain got to find out that the crisis over which Blair considered resigning this summer was his daughter's attempted suicide?), and representative democracy is a joke in a situation in which the majority of our legislation comes from the European Commission. We have enough on our plate defending their existence, let alone holding them up as examples of our shared heritage. Moreover, there's not much point in banging on about our glorious shared freedoms if we no longer share them.

Lastly, and in reply to all of your other points, I would point out that there is a financial impediment. "Nervos belli, pecuniam infinitam", as old Marcus Tullus said. What the FCS really needs is a millionaire donor, because raising awareness comes, as you so rightly say, through seminars, newspaper adverts, leaflets, mail shots, and all the other apparatus of modern politics, and all of these things cost money. If anyone has any bright ideas about fundraising (which, as a Tory activist of many years' standing, I know to be difficult - except for the fundraising I did for the Countryside Alliance, which was about the easiest job ever since the government was misguidedly picking on the richest million people in the country), I think that this is what should be discussed before anything else.

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[> [> Subject: Our Monarchy is just fine thankyou


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Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 18:00:03 12/05/04 Sun

And I doubt Blair actualy gives a damn about its existance.

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[> [> Subject: This is does not mean we should stop fighting


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Steph (U.S.)
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Date Posted: 18:19:52 12/06/04 Mon

I agree that trial by jury is under assault. That is one of the reasons I think such a organisation would be useful. If we could get defense attorneys from all of the English Speaking Nations working together to save trial by jury, not only would that help save it, it would build ties among people who might not other wise be intrested in our cause.
Cheers
Steph

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