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Subject: Indeed the Simpsosn is clever, as they show when they praised Canada in that episode...


Author:
Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 21:18:17 11/20/04 Sat
In reply to: Mister Non-Canuck 's message, "Canada's contribution to the world" on 19:53:38 11/20/04 Sat

I agree Simpsons is a smart program. Ever seen the episode where marge leads a group of kids dressed as native americans doing community work, while milhouse's dad does the same only with the kids dressed as 19th century ameircan soldiers. At the end of the show theres a big fight. They realise fighting is worng and that sailor dude says sumin along the lines of "lets just sing a nice song together, not our national anthem, a tribute to violence. No, lets sing a good brotherly, heart warming song, like the Canadian national anthem". And so they all sing the Canadian Anthem, all joining hands in a big group in the shape of the Canadian maple leaf.

God save Canada.

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[> Subject: Mister Non-Canuck


Author:
Brent (Canada)
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Date Posted: 00:20:38 11/21/04 Sun

I really should not take the bait, but here goes

Homer Simpson is an homage to creator Matt Groening's father, also named Homer, who hails from the great American city of Winnipeg, Manitoba. So the shots at Canada are ironic...you understand irony, don't you?

Thus, Matt Groening joins the list of Americans with Canadian parentage who have contributed to your popular culture:

Thomas Alva Edison
The Warner Bros.
Louis B. Mayer - MGM (grew up in Halifax, NS)
Madonna (the Plains of Abraham are named after one of her ancestors)
Walt Disney

Of course, you seem to neglect people like:
*Mary Pickford ("America's Sweetheart, or Gladys Smith of Toronto)
*Glenn Ford
*Walter Huston (father of John Huston, grandfather of Angelica)
*Donald Sutherland and son, Kiefer
*Lorne Greene
*John Kenneth Galbraith (Economist, US Ambassador to India)
*Robert Mundell (Nobel Laureate - inventor of the Euro)
*Sir Sandford Fleming - inventor of Greenwich Mean Time and time zones
* Alice Munro
* Michael Onndatje (sp.?) - wrote "The English Patient"
* James Naismith - inventor of basketball
* Lorne Michaels - creator of Saturday Night Live, and virtually every talented person who ever came out of that show

You diabetic? then thank Sir Frederick Banting.

Actually, if every talented Canadian, or their children, who ever moved to the United States actually stayed on our side of the border and denied you the benefit of their genius, the United States would today be a nation of people living like Amish farmers all begging to get into the promised land north of the 49th!

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[> [> Subject: such a shame


Author:
Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 11:11:17 11/21/04 Sun

Its a shame those great Canadians didnt have the patriostism and streangth of character to stay above the 49th.

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[> [> [> Subject: I wish you wouldn't insult migrants, Owain


Author:
Ian (Australia)
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Date Posted: 15:13:19 11/21/04 Sun

British society itself was built out of waves of migration, going way, way, way back beyond the Normans, the Vikings, the Angles, Jutes and Saxons and the Celts. If our ancestors had not migrated, we would all be sitting around a lake somewhere in the East African rift valley.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Yep


Author:
Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 15:18:28 11/21/04 Sun

I agree. The free movement of so many different peoples is one of the things which not only makes the British world what it is, but also makes it something of which we can be proud. Think of the countries which have not been subject to migration, either in or out... Tibet (although thankfully the Chinese have now brought things like medicine and wheels to the country), Bhutan, much of the Arab world... these places are culturally poorer for their ethnic stagnation: small-minded, insular, backwards. The British global outlook and tradition of tolerance, of which we should all be proud, is largely a result of the movements of people.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: What about Canada' stand in both World Wars - at least we were there for the entire war


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Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 15:56:55 11/21/04 Sun


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