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Subject: When a Scotsman is not a Scots man

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Trixta (UK)

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Date Posted: 14:58:50 11/14/04 Sun
In reply to: Owain (UK) 's message, "Scottish Blair?" on 14:20:35 11/12/04 Fri

Strange as it may be, a lot of Scots, particularly those in Glasgow, view Edinburgh as more English than Scottish. Obviously Edinburgh is the capitol of Scotland, though this is more to do with it having a castle in modern terms. Glasgow is often referred to as the unofficial capitol of Scotland as it is Scots to its very core - not the tourist-friendly tartan n haggis type of Scottishness but the hard-drinking, chain-smoking, ship-building Scottishness that has more basis in reality and less in the warblings of Burns.

That is not to say there aren't Scots in Edinburgh, or that it isn't Scottish - obviously it is - just that it is very anglicised.

Thus you have the wonderful paradox whereby a Scottish-born, Scottish-educated man can still be viewed as an English (insert expletive of choice here).

You think I'm joking, don't you. Okay, do your best at speaking in a Glasgow accent. Awful, probably, but at least you know what it is. Now try an Edinbugger accent. See?

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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 16:19:46 11/14/04 Sun

"Strange as it may be, a lot of Scots, particularly those in Glasgow, view Edinburgh as more English than Scottish."

"the hard-drinking, chain-smoking, ship-building Scottishness that has more basis in reality and less in the warblings of Burns."

You seem to define degrees of Scottishness in terms of how working-class it is perceived. This is not a definition that I share, and is in fact one that I find offensive.

"Okay, do your best at speaking in a Glasgow accent"

Which part of Glasgow, Govan or Kelvinside?

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