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] Date Posted: 02:15:54 10/30/04 Sat In reply to: A Nonny Moose 's message, "Ridiculous" on 23:39:53 10/29/04 Fri "you're all English really" You're all Americans now. You're colonised by the Americans. You speak like them. Your music is American. Your Army is out for their hire. You're Americans in denial. Unless Brussels pips DC to the post. We all know where every Brit PM since MacMillan has taken order from. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Roberdin [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:52:35 10/30/04 Sat Do not be foolish. Merely because our government is bending over to lick your shoes does not mean the people of this country respect you. Most people here find the US Army to be a joke - when have they ever won a war by themselves? And as for the government, well, you should have watched Have I Got News For You yesterday: 'You know, you really should try a president with a three figure IQ.' 'We tried that with Carter... it didn't really work. I guess we're not a three-figure IQ country.' As for speaking like you... that's true, but only because you speak like us - check the name of the language you're writing in - I'll give you a clue, it starts with E. No matter how deformed you might have made it, it is at its core English. We have a monarchy which the world respects, and its not going anywhere. Even Bush had to enter through the servant passage rather than the traditional red carpet treatment that is usually given to foreign heads of state. Post script: Nice to see you still spell colonised the British English way. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Gomac [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:05:21 10/31/04 Sun >You speak like them. In some ways yes, in other ways most definatly not. English English has always evolved and taken in from outside influences. >Your music is American. Or is American music English? >Your Army is out for their hire. Sadly true. >You're Americans in denial. If Brits are americans in denial then Americans are brits in denial. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: anon [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:26:58 11/03/04 Wed "is American music English?" Most of it, no. Undoubtedly there is some English influence but the roots of Jazz and Blues are mainly non-English, coming from Africa and France and Spanish cultures, and country music comes partly from Scotland and Ireland (with some input from England no doubt). These two are the parents of rock and roll... rap, funk, disco etc, none of these are English (rap is arguably not music either!!!). England's answer has been to adapt heavy metal and punk, but it can still be argued these aren't English genres. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:01:21 11/03/04 Wed Jazz and Blues were invented by Gershwin when he blended some African influences with the Ashkenazi Klezmer tradition. One only has to look at his use of homophonic harmonisation and his use of polyphonic structural texture, not to mention syncopation, to realise this. Compare it with some of Bartok's middle streichquartette and the codified scores of what used to be called "Negro Spirituals" (which actually emerged in the British sugar islands). Neither of these things are British or American. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: anon [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:41:48 11/04/04 Thu "Jazz and Blues were invented by Gershwin when he blended some African influences with the Ashkenazi Klezmer tradition. One only has to look at his use of homophonic harmonisation and his use of polyphonic structural texture, not to mention syncopation, to realise this. Compare it with some of Bartok's middle streichquartette and the codified scores of what used to be called "Negro Spirituals" (which actually emerged in the British sugar islands). "Neither of these things are British or American." Jazz comes out of ragtime and the negro spiritual though, which predate Gershwin. I think the spiritual actually DOES have some English influences on it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |