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Subject: Yes, and June, '07 was the 23rd warmest in the 113 year record:


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Carbonicus
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Date Posted: 10:02:02 08/25/07 Sat
In reply to: Cloudy 's message, "Re: NOAA says it is the fifth warmest spring on record and the driest ever in the Southeast?" on 10:50:40 08/24/07 Fri

...June 2007 was the 23rd warmest June on record, 1.4° F (0.8° C) above the 20th century average of 69.3° F.

...and it was the 18th warmest January-June:

For the contiguous United States, the first half of 2007 was the 18th warmest January-June since records began in 1895.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2007/jun/jun07.html

...And we've had one of the colder Februarys:

...and February as a whole was 1.8°F (0.9°C) below the 20th century average of 34.7°F (1.5°C), colder than two-thirds of the Februarys in the 113-year record for the contiguous U.S.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2007/feb/feb07.html"

You're cherry-picking data, Cloudy. I stated that from a historical perspective 2007 has so far been an unexceptional year. And that point, despite your attempt at rhetorical misdirection, stands.

Every year some city, county, state, region, country some where is going to to set daily, monthly, or yearly record highs and lows for temperature and precipitation. And they will do so multiple times each year.

And as for the Climate Prediction Center's long-range forecasts? Please don't confuse predictions with actual data. As the following two temperature maps, one of CPC's April forecast for spring and the other the actual temperatures gathered by the National Climate Data Center, the Climate Prediction Center's 90 day models, let alone their 180 day models, aren't worth a hill of beans:









See, the problem with climate models is that biased Bayesian assumptions go in and Bayesian crap comes out.

The forecasting capability is pretty iffy more than two weeks out. And I can that information and predictive capability from the local weatherman.






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