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Date Posted: 16:03:40 07/15/18 Sun
Author: Knut Holt
Subject: THINGS DONE TO KIDS AND ADULTS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS OF SOCIETY



Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood

Jeg trenger mer data fra Norge, Sverige og Dannark om hva leger og helsearbeidere gjør med barn og voksne, ofte i hemmelighet, og uten santykke fra pasienten selv eller pårørende. Har du noe du har opplevd eller noen du kjenner har opplevd, vær så snill å fortelle om det i en av mine spørreundersøkelswer, som nedenfor er tillenket.

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You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about.
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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524

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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his website with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

http://www.mydeltapi.com/erotic-products.htm
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THE NEWEST TESTAMONIALS RECEIVED

Preteen-teen boy, North America, strange stomach procedures, possibly tissue theft

It happeed as early preteen-teen boy 8-16 The procedure happened in North America, in USA, in 2010 or later.

I had an exam or surgery in my stomach area. I had a procedure in my upper stomach with instruments through my mouth. I don't really know what it was. The doctor called it tummy preparations. I had four all together.

The first one was in a doctors office in a health center when I was 8 and he put me to sleep in the office, while the other 3 where in a hospital.

My parents brought me After the first one they told me I would be having some operations done in the next few years.



SYMPTOMS AFTER THE PROCEDURES

I had pain irritition or other problems in my mouth, in my respiratory tract or lungs, in my anus or rectum. I had pain irritation or gas in my colon or lower stomach.

I had pain or irritation in my esophagus or upper stomach.

My underwear beng messed up or other signs that I had been stripped naked at my lower body.


PREPARATIONS AND ANESTHESIA

For my first one I was just in my undewer, the other ones I was naked in a hospital gown. After the first one things felt funny in my throat.

They gave me sedative medicines through my anus. I was given medication intravenously. They gave me gas through a mask. They put a mask on me and a tube in my arm for 3 of the four but for one they did something in my bum to put me to sleep.


THE PROCEDURES AS REMEMBERED

The first one was in a doctors office when I was 8 and he put me to sleep in my underwear and I woke up with them messed up a bit.

The second one was when I was 10, and I woke up with two small tubes in my belly button that I had to put stuff in when I woke up, and take it out before I went to bed.

When I was 12 I had a third tube put in. By the forth one they took the tubes out as well as my appendix I wasn't put on any special diet and was allpwed to eat normally and was told to eat as often as I wanted to.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I was connected to equipment but I don't remember much about them I had mask when i woke up. I had a catheter when I was in the hospital. I don't really remember about any tubes in anus. I had heart monitor. They examined me when wakingi up, but just normal stuff I guess. I did not wake up during the procedure.

COMMENTS

Based on the symptoms, they surely did some procedure with endoscopic equipment both inside his upper digestive system through his mouth and his lower digestive system through his anus at all 4 occations, and also procedures inside his abdominal cavity.

Since there is not any decription of the things put into the tubes each day, it is difficult to interprete the objective of the ordeal. The fact that the boy did not et any explanation, rises suspicions that this all was not done for the good of the boy.

The most probable explanation is that the boy was used to harvest cells and tissue for use in research, to produce medicines and for treatment of other patients. The things put in probably contained substances to stimulate the growth of these tissues. Tissues were then stole from inside the digestive channel and inside the abdominal cavity during the procedures. Also the apendicectony was probably for tissue harvesting.

Possibly the parents got money for the ordeals. But it is also possible they were thereatened to let it be done in some way or another, for exampel threatening that the child protective system would take away the boy if they objected.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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Boy 16yo, NA, extensive intimate assessments and adjustments by sport school

I am male. It happened in North America, 2015 or later, 16 years old. It was announced a few days before it took place, also a message was sent to parents.

We went in a bus in group from our school, at a special establishment used for these type of exams. A selected percentage of the children in my school of the age group had the exam, including all children with some kind of health problem, and all children that have shown more than just standard interest for sexual matters.

I attended a private boarding school specialized in sports, especially swimming which I performed. When going for the examination we were told to only wear a pair of older swimming briefs (speedos). We were taken by bus to the special health center where the examinations were done.


PREPARATIONS AND ANTESTHESIA - OVERVIEW

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. They washed my body before the exam. My stomach was cleaned out by a tube incerted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine.

I was totally naked through all the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam. They placed me upon a simple examination table an also upon an advanced surgical table.

I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up, spread and mounted upon two devices. I got IVs, tubes into blood vessels, in an arm. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood and a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg.

I got electrodes on my cheast, on my stomach or hip region, on my legs and on my head.

I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. I got a tube or sond in through my anus. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my urinary opening and my anus.


THE PREPAEARIONS AS EXPERIENCED

First they measured my height and weight, then I had to lay on a normal examination table where they placed electrodes to several places of my body. Then I had to run on a thread-mill until my heart rate reached a pre-determined level. After that I had to lay on a special examination table with my legs raised and held by two devices, making my legs spread really wide.

They bound me on the table with several straps, on arms and legs, over my chest and abdomen and even my head, keeping me totally immobile. Then they began with the rest of the examination.

EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG, functional test of the heart function, with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. I had to do some physical work, like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed.

They examined me with an ultrasound device or something similar at my upper body, stomach area, hip area, arms and legs and my genitals.

They took x-ray pictures of my chest, my stomach, my shoulder area, my hip area and my limbs.

They used electrodes to record functions inside my head, my chest, my belly, and my genitals.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS AT THE UPPER BODY PARTS

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope. They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope.


IMTERNAL INSPECTIONS IN THE LOWER BODY PARTS

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra with a tube. They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. They inspected me through my anus with an ultrasound probe. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.


THE INTERNAL INSPECTIONS AS EXPERIENCED

They filled my bladder with some fluid through the tube several times. First time was before the ultrasound examination, then they repeated the filling I think 8 to 10 times, each time with a larger quantity. They also kept the fluid in my bladder for longer and longer time, really stretching it.

This was very uncomfortable, painful even.
They also took samples of my semen by using the electrodes to stimulate my genitals until I ejaculated. During this I had to look at pictures of various boys and girls on a computer screen. It was pictures of both classmates, some celebrities and for me totally unknown people.

Most of the other examinations were not painful, but a bit uncomfortable and felt quite weird.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

They held me inconscious for some hours. I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam.

The doctor decided that I had to be circumcised, and this was done while I still were placed on the examination table. Because of the circumcision I had to stay at the center until the next day.

Then I could go back to school with another group that had their examinations that day.


FOLLOW- UPS

I also had to keep the catheter for another month with instructions to only empty my bladder when it felt really full. I also had to revisit the health center once a week and having my bladder filled and stretched more and more. Also ultrasound examinations were done to the bladder. At all those visits I were totally naked the whole time. After that my bladder capacity must have been increased a lot, often I only need to empty it once or twice a day.

THE SCJOOL I ATTENDED

I attended private boarding school. A private boarding school specialized in sports.

COMMENTS
Basically this is a standarized extensive procedure used on children in all parts of the world in selected communities or schools. The purpose is a comprehensive health assessment, development check and surveillance of the young population and research. The procedure is coordinated nationally and internationally.

The typical ages for this procedure is around 7yo, 12yo and 16yo. It is highly possible that this boy had got done something very similar to him at teh two earlier ages.

The procedure is often extended with particularities wanted by the education institution. In this case it seems that the boy undervent extensive adjustments in his pelvic area and his development to prepare him for better achievments in sport. Such adjustments done for sport schools are typically achieved by internal stretching of various kind and by injection of hormonal drugs in body parts.

They also tested his sexual reaction, probably both for research and survaillance, and for purposes of the school.

Being held uncouscious after the main exam is a frequent particularity reported. Perhaps more adjustments were done then, but the boy was possibly also used as training object for medical students.

It is also higly probable that the sport trainer was present when he was unconscious to learn all kind of particularities of the body parts of the boy, and probably also the trainer did an examination of all his body parts for his purpose.

The boy probably did not need to be circumcised, but it was done to take tissue for research and to sell in the organ and tissue market.

The school was probably also paid money for the research and student training parts of the ordeal.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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Boy 18yo external and internal tests before army recruitment

I am male. It happened in Eastern Europe. 1990-1999, 18 years old. Sent for physical fitness test before mandatory army recruitment. I went there alone by myselfm to a health center, at a sport health department of hospital, in a doctors office. All children with some kind of health problem got this extended test.


PREPARATION AND ARRANGEMENTS

Was asked to strip naked. Had some basic examination inclusing heart listening, stomach palpating, blood samples. Then performing physical tests during activities naked. I was totally naked through all the procedures.

They placed me upon a simple examination table. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast, on my stomach or hip region, on my legs and on my head. I did not get any anesthesia. Between particular tests I had lay on back still naked covered by blanket.

OVERVIEW OF THE EXAMINATIONS WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an ECG, functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube.
I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed. They did some other type of test with advanced machines.

They used electrodes at my chest, belly and limbs to record body functions.


OVERVIEW OF INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope. They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They inspected my anus with a speculum.


HOW THE EXAM PROCEEDED

Tests of breathing several blood samples during day looking to mouth anus ears . Before and after each activity (cycling running) they got small sample of blood, give me ECG, they looked to my neck anus . When Ive needed to pee I had to get piss into medical glass and they analyzed it

HOW THE ORDEAL ENDED

They gave me mechanical ventilation through the breathing tube. I had electrodes on my body. I lay naked under a blanket after the exam. Before finished I was asked for semen sample. They asked me if I wa t to masturbate or they would use a catheter methods. I was supervised during masturbation by doctor as well as by nurse.

I had to lie some whiles after exam. Then Im got home by public transfer. I attended public boarding school. I was on high school.

COMMENT

This seemed to be an extensive exam to see if the boy was fit for military service. But it also loooks like an exam done for research purposes. I therefore guess that not only kids with health problems went+ through the test, but also a random nummber of other teens.

The artificial ventilation at the end seems to have been a part of a test. Probably he got short-working anesthesia and medication to paralyzs muscles during that test, but does not remember it.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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Boy, 8yo, USA, Circumcission and procedure insite the urinary system

I am male, it happened at schoolage 8yo, in North America, in USA, in the years 2000-2009 They performed an exam or procedure but was not given information about what they did. I was 8 and I was circomsized . My foreskin was too tight and I had problems peeing. I think my parents wanted to restrict my sexual feeling too I am male. My parents brought me to a hospital where it was done.


PREPARATIONS AND ARRANGEMENTS

My parents didn't tell me anything other then I was going to have surgery

They gave me gas through a mask. They put a mask on me. The procedure happened in a hospital. I had to get a catheter put in. They had trouble doing it in the pre opp room because I was moving around to much. They took me to an operating room and strapped me down on it so I couldn't move. Then they spread my legs apart and put the catheter in me. I was crying because it hurt and I was alone.


SYMPTOMS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had pain irritation or other problems in my urethra or bladder. My parents or others giving hints or remarks about unexpected symptoms or signs.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had a mask I had catheter, they kept it in me for a couple of days I had heart monitor


COMMENTS

Based on the history of having problems with urination, the symptoms after, and of the long use of catheter, they surely also inspected the urethra and bladder of the boy endoscopically, and probably made some adjustments in the urinary system too, most probably in the prostate area or bladder outlet.


They probably took out the catheter before or after the circumcission to inspect the urinary system and then inserted the catheter anew.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydltapi.com


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Boy, Western Europe, Tonsillectomy with possible urinary endoscopy

It happened as preteen 10-12, in western Europe, in 2010 or later. I had tonsillectomy. It happened in a hospital that my dad worked at I was 12 then

PREPARATIONS AND ARRANGEMENTS

They gave me gas through a mask. They put a mask on me. I wasn't given any explanation. I asked to see what it was like to be a patient on an operating table. I lay down I was strapped down and had a mask put on me and told to just relax and take deep breaths
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SYMPTOMS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had pain, irritition or other problems in my mouth. I had pain, irritation or other problems in my urethra or bladder. My underwear beng messed up or other signs that I had been stripped naked at my lower body. My undewer got lost.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had IV, a mak and heart monitor,

COMMENTS

When he was asleep, he was surely paralyzed by medications, got a breathing tube and artificial ventilation. This is common procedure during tonsillectomy.

The fact that his underwear was missing and the symptoms in his urethra and bladder is a sure indiction that something was done at that area.

The simplest explanation is that they fixed electrodes at his buttock area and inserted a catheter that they took out again before he woke up.

But boys and girls in his age are often examined endoscopically in the urethra, bladder and anus, as well as the vagina in girls during tosillectomy. One reason for this is to get two planned procedures done at the same time, and keep the most intimate one secret for the kid. It is also used for training of doctors and for reseaarch and surveillance of the kids in society.

I strongly suspect this is the case here, at least I think they performed a cystoscopy. If the boy had urinary tract infection some time before, or other urinary problems, this conclusion is certain.

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Boy, 9yo, North America genital exam and urinary tract endoscopy

I had cystoscopy - I am male. The exam took place in North America, at a hospital when I was 9 years old. Years 1980-1989.

PREPARATIONS

Got now explanation. The exam was a total surprize. My parents drove me. Given enema during preparations. The enema felt weird. Lay on back with legs in stirrups.

HOW THE EXAM WAS EXPERIENCED

They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They pumped upp the bladder with air or gas when looking inside. They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside.

They took out the scope and inserted a new scope to take further specimens. The scope or a new intrument was inserted even further up towards the kindeys. I am not sure, but had pain on the sides of my back as if they inserted the scope even further up towards the kindeys.

They made an ultrasound exam of the scrotum and testicles. No aditional exams.

It felt awesome. I could feel the tube slide into my body. The tube was ment for adults and a bit wider than it should have been.

ARRANMGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Got medicines into urethra with a syringe after the exam. Had to have catheter in the bladder during night.

REASON AND JUDGEMENTS

The reason was problems with urination. It was awesome.

COMMENTS

The boy had a thorrough examination of his genitals, urethra, bladder and the area up to his kidneys. This is pretty common for kids with urinary problems and kids that hav had urinary tract infections.

It seems that the exam was done only with local numbing, some relaxing stuff and a gentle approach. This type of exam can actually be made comfirtably this way, even on children. When this is possible, one avoids risk inherited in general anesthesia and discomfort after anesthesia.

Usually general anesthesia is used during such exams, but this is more to hinder the kids and parents to know fully what is done, and hinder stories being made after the exam. This is for the benefit of the staff and not the kid.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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