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Date Posted: 18:11:23 06/04/03 Wed
Author: Wyvern
Subject: Can we reach some kind of compromise on this?
In reply to:
BunnyPhobia
's message, "Hey, I agree with you" on 13:15:34 06/04/03 Wed
See, imisstara, BP and I agree with you, but Kash has spoken and in the end we need to acquiesce. There has to be one person who can say, "This is where it stops" and he has.
I've just re-read "Crisis" and I actually don't think that the continuity problem is as bad as it seems - as long as you don't assume the episode follows on immediately, because it wasn't written that way. I think there was the assumption that some time had passed and that for good or ill, certain things had been brought up "off-screen". I'm not saying that changes shouldn't have been made; I think what would have made all the difference (and actually, it would have been more than relevent to our episode) would have been to have recapped that final scene. But they do leave the way open for future episodes, and that's kind of the point about a serial; you don't clear things up straight away (I think that point's been made elsewhere in this thread), you may even let the go completely for a while to be picked up in the future. That's what we were doing, bringing in threads from several episodes before. Sure, the mix-up over the order of writers was unfortunate (I think we may have apologised for that *g*) but these things do happen. But the thing is, it isn't over yet.
So here's my suggestion...
Before we wear ourselves out from all the jumping up and down about what we should or shouldn't change, why don't we see what the next episode has in store? Apparently, Mark's done a really good job on the Faith and Spike story and to be honest, the way "Crisis" reads to me, it sets them up nicely for a reasonably serious bit of exposition later on, which may actually do the story more justice than a throwaway scene at the beginning of ours. Plus, if we bugger about with ours, it means that it may upset future continuity. So can we just trust Mark to do a great job and see how it works out?
And no, imisstara, I don't think you were being in any way difficult or snarky or whatever, just someone defending a piece of work of which you are justifiable proud.
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Thank you, BP and Wyvern. From the bottom of my heart... -- imisstara, 18:17:42 06/04/03 Wed
...I hope I have not offended either of you, because that was never once my intent. I was just a little passionate yesterday, lol I hope you can understand. I guess i was just thrown for a loop that the request was denied and was a little taken aback by that. I didn't even really care before, if I did i would have posted something the day your ep was posted, which was a wonderful ep, by the way. Can't say that enough.
Yes, we can definitely reach a comprimise. I want to put this behind us because I love all you guys!! You're great! I would seriously be happy with one sentence added, that's it. Just one sentence and I think the eps can be briged. Something like, "Spike ran off a little while ago, I think he was a little uncomfortable from all the stares he and Faith got... Too bad they couldn't find any good info." Or, at the least, some scenes added to your previously on... segment.
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Forgot to add... -- imisstara, 18:29:51 06/04/03 Wed
That I have great confidence that Mark resolved things well, enough to that we won't have to put in an entire extra scene to this. Like i said, one line would be nice, but im not going to press it. It just really bugs me that people are critizing your ep because of something like that and not even looking at the content.
But again, I wanted to apologize deeply if I offended either of you. I completly know it was a mistake and I feel almost embarresed this has turned into something that it shouldn't have.
-Katie
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Please don't sweat it - I really do understand :) -- Wyvern, 19:19:48 06/04/03 Wed
I'm really not offended by anything you've said - I understand where you're coming from. And there's really no cause for embarrassment - to be honest, this board has been ticking along for too long without anything resembling a blow-out to clear the air and if this is as bad as it gets then we're doing great!
And don't worry about other people critcising us - I'm hoping that as the season comes to a conclusion they'll see what we were trying to do and it's going to make a lot more sense.
Hmmm.... d'you think we should maybe stop apologising at each other yet???
*hugs*
Wyv
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I just want to explain my decision. -- Kashmanik, 09:46:56 06/05/03 Thu
To be completely honest, the reason I'm against going back and making changes is that it sets a precedent. If we open that door, it's likely that future authors will say "Oh, here's how this line could be funnier." or "I should have added another scene here." and it will be absolute chaos. And if I say no, the response? "You let someone else do it."
I do sympathise with you, but I've got to take a stance on this, and unfortunately I *have* to be the bad guy here. Part of the job. :-(
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