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Date Posted: 23:22:00 06/28/06 Wed

David Duke is a malignant narcissist

He invents and then projects a false, fictitious, self for the world to fear, or to admire. He maintains a tenuous grasp on reality to start with and the trappings of power further exacerbate this. Real life authority and David Dukes predilection to surround him with obsequious sycophants support David Dukes grandiose self-delusions and fantasies of omnipotence and omniscience.

David Duke's personality is so precariously balanced that he cannot tolerate even a hint of criticism and disagreement. Most narcissists are paranoid and suffer from ideas of reference (the delusion that they are being mocked or discussed when they are not). Thus, narcissists often regard themselves as "victims of persecution".

Duke fosters and encourages a personality cult with all the hallmarks of an institutional religion: priesthood, rites, rituals, temples, worship, catechism, and mythology. The leader is this religion's ascetic saint. He monastically denies himself earthly pleasures (or so he claims) in order to be able to dedicate himself fully to his calling.
Duke is a monstrously inverted Jesus, sacrificing his life and denying himself so that his people - or humanity at large - should benefit. By surpassing and suppressing his humanity, Duke became a distorted version of Nietzsche's "superman". But being a-human or super-human also means being a-sexual and a-moral.

In this restricted sense, narcissistic leaders are post-modernist and moral relativists. They project to the masses an androgynous figure and enhance it by engendering the adoration of nudity and all things "natural" - or by strongly repressing these feelings. But what they refer to, as "nature" is not natural at all.

Duke invariably proffers an aesthetic of decadence and evil carefully orchestrated and artificial - though it is not perceived this way by him or by his followers. Narcissistic leadership is about reproduced copies, not about originals. It is about the manipulation of symbols - not about veritable atavism or true conservatism.

In short: narcissistic leadership is about theatre, not about life. To enjoy the spectacle (and be subsumed by it), the leader demands the suspension of judgment, depersonalization, and de-realization. Catharsis is tantamount, in this narcissistic dramaturgy, to self-annulment.

Narcissism is nihilistic not only operationally, or ideologically. Its very language and narratives are nihilistic. Narcissism is conspicuous nihilism - and the cult's leader serves as a role model, annihilating the Man, only to re-appear as a pre-ordained and irresistible force of nature.

Narcissistic leadership often poses as a rebellion against the "old ways" - against the hegemonic culture, the upper classes, the established religions, the superpowers, the corrupt order. Narcissistic movements are puerile, a reaction to narcissistic injuries inflicted upon David Duke like (and rather psychopathic) toddler nation-state, or group, or upon the leader.

Minorities or "others" - often arbitrarily selected - constitute a perfect, easily identifiable, embodiment of all that is "wrong". They are accused of being old, they are eerily disembodied, they are cosmopolitan, they are part of the establishment, they are "decadent", they are hated on religious and socio-economic grounds, or because of their race, sexual orientation, origin ... They are different, they are narcissistic (feel and act as morally superior), they are everywhere, they are defenseless, they are credulous, they are adaptable (and thus can be co-opted to collaborate in their own destruction). They are the perfect hate figure. Narcissists thrive on hatred and pathological envy.

This is precisely the source of the fascination with Hitler, diagnosed by Erich Fromm - together with Stalin - as a malignant narcissist. He was an inverted human. His unconscious was his conscious. He acted out our most repressed drives, fantasies, and wishes. He provides us with a glimpse of the horrors that lie beneath the veneer, the barbarians at our personal gates, and what it was like before we invented civilization. Hitler forced us all through a time warp and many did not emerge. He was not the devil. He was one of us. He was what Arendt aptly called the banality of evil. Just an ordinary, mentally disturbed, failure, a member of a mentally disturbed and failing nation, who lived through disturbed and failing times. He was the perfect mirror, a channel, a voice, and the very depth of our souls.

Duke prefers the sparkle and glamour of well-orchestrated illusions to the tedium and method of real accomplishments. His reign is all smoke and mirrors, devoid of substances, consisting of mere appearances and mass delusions. In the aftermath of his regime - Duke having died, been deposed, or voted out of office - it all unravels. The tireless and constant prestidigitation ceases and the entire edifice crumbles. What looked like an economic miracle turns out to have been a fraud-laced bubble. Loosely held empires disintegrate. Laboriously assembled business conglomerates go to pieces. "Earth shattering" and "revolutionary" scientific discoveries and theories are discredited. Social experiments end in mayhem.

It is important to understand that the use of violence must be ego-syntonic. It must accord with the self-image of David Duke. It must abet and sustain his grandiose fantasies and feed his sense of entitlement. It must conform David Duke like narrative. Thus, David Duke who regards himself as the benefactor of the poor, a member of the common folk, the representative of the disenfranchised, the champion of the dispossessed against the corrupt elite - is highly unlikely to use violence at first. The pacific mask crumbles when David Duke has become convinced that the very people he purported to speak for, his constituency, his grassroots fans, and the prime sources of his narcissistic supply - have turned against him. At first, in a desperate effort to maintain the fiction underlying his chaotic personality, David Duke strives to explain away the sudden reversal of sentiment. "The people are being duped by (the media, big industry, the military, the elite, etc.)", "they don't really know what they are doing", "following a rude awakening, they will revert to form", etc. When these flimsy attempts to patch a tattered personal mythology fail, David Duke becomes injured. Narcissistic injury inevitably leads to narcissistic rage and to a terrifying display of unbridled aggression. The pent-up frustration and hurt translate into devaluation. That which was previously idealized - is now discarded with contempt and hatred. This primitive defense mechanism is called "splitting". To David Duke, things and people are either entirely bad (evil) or entirely good. He projects onto others his own shortcomings and negative emotions, thus becoming a totally good object. Duke is likely to justify the butchering of his own people by claiming that they intended to kill him, undo the revolution, devastate the economy, or the country, etc. The "small people", the "rank and file", and the "loyal soldiers" of David Duke - his flock, his nation, and his employees - they pay the price. The disillusionment and disenchantment are agonizing. The process of reconstruction, of rising from the ashes, of overcoming the trauma of having been deceived, exploited and manipulated - is drawn-out. It is difficult to trust again, to have faith, to love, to be led, to collaborate. Feelings of shame and guilt engulf the erstwhile followers of David Duke. This is his sole legacy: a massive post-traumatic stress disorder.



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Subject: Random Observation


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Sam
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Date Posted: 07:33:50 03/29/03 Sat

About every two months or o, the tv gods will arrange things so that I flip to "Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends". Now, I used to watch this show all the time as a kid, so I usually think "Cool! Pointless nostalgia!" and watch. And every time I realize qquite quickly that not only is the animation some of the worst ever created, but they had THE. WORST. BATTLECRY. EVER. Bar none.

"SPIDER-FRIENDS? GO FOR IT!"

Terrible.


Just thought I'd share.

Oh, and chi:

"Mr. Tyler Durden
420 Paper Street
Delaware, PA"

FAN-TASTIC!

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[> Subject: Re: Random Observation


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Emily
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Date Posted: 21:24:41 03/30/03 Sun

FOR THE RECORD..it was I that spotted the Tyler Durden address. Sarah was to busy looking for round printer labels to be any sort of fun.

:)

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[> [> Subject: I am Jack's smirking revenge...


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Carolyn
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Date Posted: 10:41:31 03/31/03 Mon

That's fucking hilarious. Now I want address labels.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: I am Jack's smirking revenge...


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Date Posted: 14:09:27 03/16/06 Thu

If you want address labels go buy some off the internet

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Jeremy
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Date Posted: 14:10:51 03/16/06 Thu

If you want rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.superiorlabels.com/">address
labels go buy some off the internet

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I am Jack's smirking revenge...


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Jeremy
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Date Posted: 14:12:05 03/16/06 Thu

If you want
address
labels
go buy some off the internet

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[> [> Subject: Re: Random Observation


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sarahchia
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Date Posted: 15:41:15 03/31/03 Mon

Oh, YEAH. I forgot about that. Sorry for stealing your fire, Em.


>FOR THE RECORD..it was I that spotted the Tyler Durden
>address. Sarah was to busy looking for round printer
>labels to be any sort of fun.
>
>:)

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Subject: Democrats??????????????


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JAY JAY
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Date Posted: 20:45:44 03/05/05 Sat

The democrats are too far left-wing, And by the way we did vote that's why the democrats lost. And if you ever want see how far left they have gone tune in to RUSH LIMBAUGH.
SEE YA

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[> Subject: Re: Democrats??????????????


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JAY JAY
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Date Posted: 20:46:59 03/05/05 Sat

>The democrats are too far left-wing, And by the way we
>did vote that's why the democrats lost. And if you
>ever want see how far left they have gone tune in to
>RUSH LIMBAUGH.
>SEE YA

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Subject: it rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again


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Date Posted: 05:40:35 08/07/03 Thu

go here now!

www.silencethemusical.com

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Subject: movies


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carolyn
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Date Posted: 05:16:33 08/07/03 Thu

okay, this looks kinda dumb next to a rant about the state of american politics (which is near abyssmal), but i thought it was amusing, and wanted to share.

i was listening to the radio on the way to work this morning and the morning show guys were reading reviews of 'Gigli'. Real ones that had been published in newspapers or broadcast on network television. i can't remember the names of the movie critics who said the first two.

1. "'Gigli' left such a bad taste in my mouth that after seeing it, I had to cleanse my palate by watching 'Glitter.'"

2. "It was a pile of manure."

3. "Calling a pile of manure is an insult to manure everywhere." --Richard Roeper

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Subject: ack politics


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Date Posted: 15:55:32 08/05/03 Tue

So I'm blatantly using Sarah's forum to vent my gripes about the stupid state of our country. Big surprise. In the words of Chia herself, and I quote, "(the situation) pisses me off because NOW I HAVE TO GET INVOLVED." Basically stating that the yahoos who have been running the country and doing a marginal job of it have now completely destroyed any credibility I used to give to the US government and now we all have to take up arms and take the country back. Or at least register to vote. In some peoples opinion, same difference.

Utah Phillips, whom I had the extreme pleasure of meeting recently said this: "Many people have asked me why I just don't move to Canada. Well, I'll tell ya. If a bunch of assholes have taken over my country, I want it back!" He also went on to state that these people running our government are "the most dangerous people my country has ever seen, maybe even that the world has seen." True. True.

So we gotta get em out! Kick em out! WAAAAYYYYYYY out! (sorry, flashback to a football game cheer) And I'm pissed off because its gotten so bad, our politics don't even take common sense into the equation. What the hell happened? ACK. People, we've got to be heard on this issue and the only way it will happen is if we all VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATS. Ya Ya Ya, i know, they are just republicans in jack ass clothing. But we have to put a stop to whats happening and the simple truth is the only party organized enough to stop it is the Democrats. *sigh* what has the world come to?

Anyways, I'm finding myself becoming more and more political ... (I even called my senator for crissakes and asked him to OPPOSE the energy bill! Made a phone call and spoke to a *gasp* real person.) So support your people in office and make your voice heard. Its the only way our children have a chance at knowing some decency in our world. End rant. for now.

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Subject: new image


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sarahchia
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Date Posted: 17:34:16 07/24/03 Thu

so what do ya'll think of the new forum image?

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[> Subject: Re: new image


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Sam
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Date Posted: 20:10:25 07/24/03 Thu

>so what do ya'll think of the new forum image?

S'ok. Could use some nudity.

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[> [> Subject: Re: new image


Author:
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Date Posted: 05:23:38 07/25/03 Fri

>>so what do ya'll think of the new forum image?
>
>S'ok. Could use some nudity.

Or blood. She is pressed up against glass and there is that line through her right wrist. Gaping wounds, nudity, or crystal clarity would be good. Still though it aint a bad image.

Though something from the GBOTW would be cool... http://industrialgothic.com/gbotw/1996/nefaria.jpg

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[> Subject: Re: new image


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carolyn
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Date Posted: 08:01:20 07/25/03 Fri

>so what do ya'll think of the new forum image?


Sigh...boys. Are nudity and blood all you think about? Don't even answer, knowing you (at least one of you...) I'll probably get a response like, "No food and explosions also cross our minds sometimes).

Chia, maybe the new image could use some food or explosions. Or boogers. Or fart jokes.

I like the new image. She's a little blond for my taste though. :)

What does GBOTW stand for? My own computer has completely crapped out on me, so I can't get online at home any more. I have a feeling the website you suggested isn't something I should go check out while I'm at work...with small children.

I shouldn't even really be here, as a matter of fact. The good news is, Chia's page looks pretty benign from a distance. Even more so now that there's not a peep with a cigarette jammed in its beak. :) I'm not knocking the peep though, that was good stuff. Hell, so are nudity and blood, for that matter, I just have to play nice at work.

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Enik Rudisill
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Date Posted: 13:52:49 07/25/03 Fri

>>so what do ya'll think of the new forum image?
>
>
>Sigh...boys. Are nudity and blood all you think
>about? Don't even answer, knowing you (at least one
>of you...) I'll probably get a response like, "No food
>and explosions also cross our minds sometimes).
>
>Chia, maybe the new image could use some food or
>explosions. Or boogers. Or fart jokes.
>
>I like the new image. She's a little blond for my
>taste though. :)
>
>What does GBOTW stand for? My own computer has
>completely crapped out on me, so I can't get online at
>home any more. I have a feeling the website you
>suggested isn't something I should go check out while
>I'm at work...with small children.
>
>I shouldn't even really be here, as a matter of fact.
>The good news is, Chia's page looks pretty benign from
>a distance. Even more so now that there's not a peep
>with a cigarette jammed in its beak. :) I'm not
>knocking the peep though, that was good stuff. Hell,
>so are nudity and blood, for that matter, I just have
>to play nice at work.


I am at work also and so have to play nice too. Gothic Babe Of The Week (GBOTW), 99% of the time it is perfectly work safe. The other 1% when they actually show the wrong skin is still art and not porn so can be work safe.

Enik

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: new image


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Date Posted: 16:44:51 07/25/03 Fri

>>>so what do ya'll think of the new forum image?
>>
>>
>>Sigh...boys. Are nudity and blood all you think
>>about? Don't even answer, knowing you (at least one
>>of you...) I'll probably get a response like, "No food
>>and explosions also cross our minds sometimes).



>
>I am at work also and so have to play nice too. Gothic
>Babe Of The Week (GBOTW), 99% of the time it is
>perfectly work safe. The other 1% when they actually
>show the wrong skin is still art and not porn so can
>be work safe.
>


Carolyn, you forgot blowjobs. It's nudity, blood, explosions, food, and blowjobs. And I think that pretty much covers it.

But y'know? This is MY forum, and last time I checked, I was a straight female, so maybe I'll just put up a really good cheesecake picture of some buff surfer dude. That would keep Carolyn and me happy.

The chances of me posting the 'goth babe of the week' as my forum image are pretty nonexistent, unless she's one of my close personal friends or something. Or unless I make it, which, considering that I fall MUCH closer to the "hippie babe of the week" or "earth mamma of the week" is fairly unlikely. Unless I suddenly decide to dye my hair black, get multiple piercings, and pour myself into a red velvet bustier. That's not gonna happen--not this week, anyway.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: new image


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carolyn
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Date Posted: 05:58:49 07/29/03 Tue

>>perfectly work safe. The other 1% when they actually
>>show the wrong skin is still art and not porn so can
>>be work safe.

I don't want to give the wrong impression, I'm very porn-friendly, just not at Zoo Camp. :)

>Carolyn, you forgot blowjobs. It's nudity, blood,
>explosions, food, and blowjobs. And I think
>that pretty much covers it.

How on earth did I forget blowjobs??? Okay, rather easily, considering the prude I date...

>closer to the "hippie babe of the week" or "earth
>mamma of the week" is fairly unlikely. Unless I

Sigh, I need style. I'm like the "khaki-on-khaki" babe of the week these days. My clothes/hair/etc are not goth or hippie or even preppy or sporty. Just beige. In a few months when I make some money, I can buy some cool clothes, color my hair... I need What Not to Wear to come take me away (BTW, Chia, I am still sitting on a couple of tapes of that show for you).

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[> Subject: Re: new image


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Date Posted: 07:57:16 07/26/03 Sat

>so what do ya'll think of the new forum image?

heh. Hi Chia and company. :) In regards to the new image, its reminiscent of a tori amos album cover, yes? Speaking of which, WE GET TO GO SEE TORI AMOS TOMORROW!!!! EEEEEEEEE!! (and no, obviously chia didn't tell you! she's sneaky like that) So I get to be the one to inform you we get to go see the goddess in concert herself! (I'm a little excited, can you tell?)

"Coming of age in the era of Reagan and Bush, watching capitalism gun down democracy ..." -Ani Difranco

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[> [> Subject: Re: new image


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Sam
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Date Posted: 22:41:29 07/28/03 Mon

>>>yes? Speaking of which, WE GET TO GO SEE TORI AMOS
>TOMORROW!!!! EEEEEEEEE!! (and no, obviously chia
>didn't tell you! she's sneaky like that) So I get to
>be the one to inform you we get to go see the goddess
>in concert herself! (I'm a little excited, can you
>tell?)

What? Sorry, I was distracted by talk of blowjobs.

Actually, you know what the image really should be? A car, made of beef, shaped like a boob, that explodes on command. And it should have native 802.11g wireless internet.


THAT would be cool.

Oh, btw:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/samwize/

Yes. I started a blog. I doubt it will be of interest to most.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: new image


Author:
emily #2 or #1...depending
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Date Posted: 18:22:35 07/30/03 Wed

picture..okay...blah blah.

i am saddened by my lack of tori shows this summer. to much $ for the tickets. and now i don't even have the poor college student excuse!


*sigh*

my life needs some fun. cats and reading harry potter are all well and good...but i feel like life is passing me by. and i'm not even 22.

*sigh again*

but my cat is adorable. so life isn't all bad :)

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: new image


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carolyn
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Date Posted: 08:57:15 08/04/03 Mon

>my life needs some fun. cats and reading harry potter
>are all well and good...but i feel like life is
>passing me by. and i'm not even 22.


life *is* passing you by, emily. and you're not even 22!

babe, i'm 26 and i'm having the exact same summer/life/lack thereof as you. i work, go home to the cats/guinea pigs, and a book. i'm done with harry potter now (god he's a moody bitch in this one!), and looking for something else to read, which is no easy task around here. new bookstores are out of my price range, used bookstores are hit or miss, and the library...well, how good can a library be in the least literate state in the country?

i just got back pictures from a couple of rolls of film i've spent about two months using up. instead of pictures of good times i've had with friends, they are mostly pictures of my cats. awfully cute pictures, mind you, but still.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: new image


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Date Posted: 15:40:36 08/05/03 Tue

>picture..okay...blah blah.
>
>i am saddened by my lack of tori shows this summer.
>to much $ for the tickets. and now i don't even have
>the poor college student excuse!
>
>
>*sigh*
>
>my life needs some fun. cats and reading harry potter
>are all well and good...but i feel like life is
>passing me by. and i'm not even 22.
>
>*sigh again*
>
>but my cat is adorable. so life isn't all bad :)

So I have a solution to the two Emily dilema. I mean one Emily is enough in just about any situation, wouldn't you agree? We tend to be opinionated and cause trouble .... Unless you come to visit, oh sister of Sarah, then two Emily's are just right!!

Anywho, I will be posting as my alter ego, Yarrow from now on, to omit any confusion.

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Subject: Island Albums


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 19:51:37 07/10/03 Thu

Glad to see at least two albums I introduced you to on the list. :)

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[> Subject: Re: Island Albums


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sarahchia
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Date Posted: 16:01:00 07/11/03 Fri

>Glad to see at least two albums I introduced you to on
>the list. :)

So everybody should post *their* list, already.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Island Albums


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Date Posted: 14:09:01 07/14/03 Mon

>>Glad to see at least two albums I introduced you to on
>>the list. :)
>
>So everybody should post *their* list, already.

1) Sisters Of Mercy "Some Girls Wander By Mistake"
2) Bauhaus "1979-1983" 2cd set
3) Skinny Puppy "Bite/Remission" CD
4) Nick Cave "Let Love In"
5) Love Spirals Downwards "Ever"
6) Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel "Nail"
7) Electric Hellfire Club "Burn, Baby, Burn"
8) Black Tape for a Blue Girl "Remnants of a Deeper Purity"
9) Dead Kennedys "Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death"
10) My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult "Confessions Of A Knife"

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Island Albums


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Sam
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Date Posted: 18:19:01 07/14/03 Mon

>>Glad to see at least two albums I introduced you to
on
>>the list. :)
>
>So everybody should post *their* list, already.

Well, screw you guys. I'm taking my Archos MP3 player and a solar battery charger. :P

But if I just HAD to pick:

1. "Key Lime Pie", Camper Van Beethoven
2. "Chronicles", Rush
3. "IV", Led Zepplin
4. "Meddle", Pink Floyd
5. "Then: The Early Years", They Might Be Giants
6. "Alapalooza", "Weird Al" Yankovic
7. "Cure For Pain", Morphine
8. "Angel Food For Thought", Meryn Cadel
9. "Arizona Bay", Bill Hicks
10. "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", The Beatles

Or something close to that.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Island Albums


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carolyn
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Date Posted: 15:30:10 07/16/03 Wed

>>Glad to see at least two albums I introduced you to on
>>the list. :)
>
>So everybody should post *their* list, already.


Hmmm...The top ten varies periodically, but there are a few consistant favorites that just don't seem to get old.

In no particular order:

1. Paul Simon--Graceland
2. Radiodhead--album/cd varies
3. They Might Be Giants--album varies
4. Tori Amos--album varies, though Boys for Pele is always a good choice
5. Flaming Lips--Soft Bulletin
6. Rushmore soundtrack
7. Do mix cds count? My brother has made me some killer mixes...
8. Morphine--The Night
9. The Beatles--White Album


I am sad to report that I can't think of other music right now. I'm exhausted from a long day in the heat and humidity, covered in mosquito bites, and have a pounding headache from dealing with 150 children, and--more irritating--the teenagers who are supposed to help with the children. And to make matters worse--here's the part that prevents me from thinking of good music--I'm a little ashamed to admit this--I have a Justin Timberlake song stuck in my head. It got there this morning at the gym, it was briefly replaced by the song the farmer sung to pig in the movie Babe "If I had words to make a day for you..." but then Justin came back. Sigh. I can't listen to music at work, my portable cd player is not in my car, so it will be at least another hour before I can turn on something good at home. I hope I don't go completely batshit insane before then.

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Subject: Ruffled Feathers


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 08:16:57 07/02/03 Wed

"In fact, your pals would say they've rarely seen your feathers ruffled."

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!

OH MAN. That's funny.

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[> Subject: Re: Ruffled Feathers


Author:
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Date Posted: 12:26:42 07/02/03 Wed

>"In fact, your pals would say they've rarely seen your
>feathers ruffled."
>
>BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!
>
>OH MAN. That's funny.


Shut UP, Sam! You're gonna wreck my cool-cat image!

Nobody asked you, anyway.

*grin*

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[> [> Subject: Re: Ruffled Feathers


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Date Posted: 15:29:07 07/02/03 Wed

ha. you suck. i always knew your were evil.

i got gryffindor on the test. and i also chose assasin.

you are evil.

ha

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Ruffled Feathers


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Date Posted: 00:19:41 07/03/03 Thu

>ha. you suck. i always knew your were evil.
>
>i got gryffindor on the test. and i also chose
>assasin.
>
>you are evil.
>
>ha


Is this "pick on Sarah" day?

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carolyn
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Date Posted: 21:31:02 07/04/03 Fri

>>ha. you suck. i always knew your were evil.
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>>i got gryffindor on the test. and i also chose
>>assasin.
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>>you are evil.
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>>ha
>
>
>Is this "pick on Sarah" day?


Dammit! I can't believe I missed Pick on Sarah Day again! Every fuckin' year...


I'm also in Slytherin house, Chi. Ginger took the test with me and she's in Ravenclaw. The description says something about them being all clever and shit, so her head got all swelled. She said she didn't think I was cutthroat enough for Slytherin. I now feel compelled to sabotage her in some way--I did choose "saboteur" if I was truly evil. Assassin would be sexy and all, but I think good old sabotage would just be more satisfying at the end of the day.

What house is Sam in? BTW, congrats on your newly acquired penis-waving rights, Sam. We all knew you could do it...? :)

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Ruffled Feathers


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Sam
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Date Posted: 20:29:39 07/07/03 Mon

>I'm also in Slytherin house, Chi. Ginger took the
>test with me and she's in Ravenclaw. The description
>says something about them being all clever and shit,
>so her head got all swelled. She said she didn't
>think I was cutthroat enough for Slytherin. I now
>feel compelled to sabotage her in some way--I did
>choose "saboteur" if I was truly evil. Assassin would
>be sexy and all, but I think good old sabotage would
>just be more satisfying at the end of the day.

I picked both.

>What house is Sam in? BTW, congrats on your newly
>acquired penis-waving rights, Sam. We all knew you
>could do it...? :)

Very definately in Slytherin. Though, I tell you what, I would've given Malfor the Hogwarts equivalent of a bed-post grundy within about a quarter second. Little punk. That damn potter kid woulda gotten a barrelful too.

He's a freaken' legacy jock, with the magic version of a porche, breaks all kinds of rules, and only gets away with it all because he's a BMOC. Little punk. I think I'd be angling for the Snapes-assistant job.

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Subject: Flirt


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 21:44:26 07/04/03 Fri

I'm a *cute* flirt? Since when??? Perhaps since I left the college bar scene, where I think I was uh...something else. All I know is that I rarely paid for drinks and sometimes got my choice of who to take home.

Ginger and I are getting ready to go out to some club. And by that I mean I've been ready for about 25 minutes and she's still futzing with her hair. The advantage to having a boy's haircut is that it takes 90 seconds or less to style. Oh well, it gives me time to pre-drink so I can save some cash at the bar. Who knows if I will be "cute" enough to get free drinks tonight. I'd feel a little weird about that anyway, considering Donald is home with my eight animals right now. That's a whole different story though...

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Subject: Yay.


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 10:33:25 06/30/03 Mon

Passed my second and final test. I'm an MCDBA.

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[> Subject: Re: Yay.


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 11:46:24 06/30/03 Mon

>Passed my second and final test. I'm an MCDBA.

YAY! Sam is Cool! What does that stand for?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Yay.


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 08:05:41 07/01/03 Tue

>>Passed my second and final test. I'm an MCDBA.
>
>YAY! Sam is Cool! What does that stand for?

Microsoft Certified DataBase Administrator for Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition.

It's a "premier" cert, equivelent to MCSE in terms of test difficulty and penis-waving rights.

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Subject: Fuck Walmart


Author:
Emily
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Date Posted: 17:08:39 06/13/03 Fri

So today at work my manager was ordering flowers. One of the flowers she needed to order today was mini carnations. So, she called up the farm in south america that we use and learned that WALMART BOUGHT THEM ALL! All we can get ahold of now is our existing standing order. So now, because of Walmart, florists all around the country are going to have difficulty getting ahold of a very common and needed product. Yay! Fuck Walmart. Boycott the bastards.

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[> Subject: Re: Fuck Walmart


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 00:32:12 06/14/03 Sat

FUCKING BASTARDS.

Don't boycott them, do what I do: Buy the stuff they keep on permanent sale to drive out competition, and don't buy anything else. If I can make them take a loss and get cheap Dr. Pepper at the same time, I feel tingly!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Fuck Walmart


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 12:21:32 06/15/03 Sun

>FUCKING BASTARDS.
>
>Don't boycott them, do what I do: Buy the stuff they
>keep on permanent sale to drive out competition, and
>don't buy anything else. If I can make them take a
>loss and get cheap Dr. Pepper at the same time, I feel
>tingly!

Yeah, that's definitely the way to go. Personally, it's extremely difficult for me to walk in the door without getting twitchy, but that's just me.

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[> Subject: Re: Fuck Walmart


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 08:28:47 06/18/03 Wed


>Yay! Fuck Walmart. Boycott the bastards.


Walmart sucks. I never ever go on my own free will. Two weeks ago I was required to go purchase a bunch of camp supplies from Walmart. My "boss" and I played rock paper scissors to see who had to go. (Good ol' rock...nothing beats rock...) I lost, so I spent *THREE HOURS* in the Walmart buying all the shit. I had two cartloads. I spent over $300 of company money. The halfwit cashier had to call *three* other people to help her figure out how to enter my credit card number by hand when *she* desensitized our card by laying it on the Sensormatic. It took half an hour to check out. In that time I tried to think of ways I might maim myself with the objects I'd just purchased--beating myself about the head with a big bag of walmart brand raisins started to seem like a more interesting pasttime than waiting for that fool to finish. I also occupied myself by trying to figure out her name. Her name had way more vowels than should be next to each other.

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Subject: Irish Car Bomb


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 21:48:51 06/16/03 Mon

Yeah, I refuse to drink anything which includes the direections "Drink quickly to avoid curdling.".

Personally, I like this (fom cocktail.com):

Irish Gun Runner
1/2 shot Irish Cream
1/2 shot Irish Whiskey
1/2 shot Grand Marnier
coffee

Pour piping hot coffee into mug filled with liquors. Stir well, then top with sweet heavy cream.

Submitted by Players Pub, Beaver Creek Lodge, Beaver Creek, Colorado USA
Editor's note: In the old song St. Patrick Was A Gentleman by Henry Bennet and Mr. Toleken, folk singers tout the success of this legendary man with a chourus of "Then success to bold Saint Patrick's fist, he was a saint so clever, He gave the snakes and toads a twist, and banished them forever."

Curiously enough the fourth verse, our favorite, sheds some light on the tradition of drinking Irish cocktails to commemorate this day. "No wonder that our Irish boys should be so free and frisky, For good St. Patrick taught them first the joys of tippling whisky."

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Subject: Begging for luck and bragging a little bit.


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 15:27:09 06/04/03 Wed

Welp, I'm retreating to spend the next 46 hours or so studying as much as I am humanly (or samanly) possible. Friday at 3:00 I will be in naperville taking Microsoft Exam
070-228 Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition. It's 50 questions long. 90 minute time limit. Average time is 52 minutes.

I've been getting between 75 and 95% on the practice tests, which should be enough to pass, but this course has been damn intense so I'm gonna keep pounding at it. But hey, it's free.

The next one is on the 27th (Designing a SQL Server), and if I pass both tests, I'll be a Microsoft Certified Database Administrator (MCDBA).

Woo!

Wish me luck.

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[> Subject: Re: Begging for luck and bragging a little bit.


Author:
chiatree
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Date Posted: 18:03:05 06/04/03 Wed

As near as I can figure, a lotta things are pretty damn samanly possible, especially regarding you and computers. So I have no doubt that you're gonna kick ass and take names. And for whatever reason, my nearest and dearest have been having really good luck/karma/whatever recently, so you've got THAT going for you....

sarachia

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[> Subject: Re: Begging for luck and bragging a little bit.


Author:
caro
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Date Posted: 15:09:30 06/06/03 Fri

>Woo!
>
>Wish me luck.


Good Luck Sam! I think you'll do fine. You clearly know lots of stuff about computers. I don't know what half the stuff in the post above even means. And that's just the names of stuff, you know what those names refer to, and how those things work.

I feel like Talking Barbie right now. You know the one: "Math is hard!"

I've been working muy overtime this week--14 hours yesterday, 11 days straight--and my brain is not functioning at peak capacity. Or perhaps it *is* functioning at peak capacity, and it can't process any *more* information. Point is, my head has reached critical mass: my brain is full.

Must go now...to do more work.

Good luck on your test to be a Computer Guy. :)

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[> Subject: Re: Begging for luck and bragging a little bit.


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 17:54:21 06/06/03 Fri

Well!

It was 45 questions, I took about 15-20 minutes, passing was 775/1000, I got 993/1000.

BOOYAH!

Now to start studying for the next one. That one's supposed to be *REALLY* super-extra-whoopty hard. Joy.


But yay! I'm 3/4 the way to an MCDBA.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Begging for luck and bragging a little bit.


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emily
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Date Posted: 11:52:47 06/07/03 Sat

congrats! i being completey computer ignorant bow down to you!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Begging for luck and bragging a little bit.


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 21:21:43 06/07/03 Sat

I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that you'll do fine.

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Subject: the little beast


Author:
Emily
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Date Posted: 15:41:40 05/30/03 Fri

so as sarah posted, i did get a little cat.

paul was beyond upset. i think he's a little afraid of cats but he won't admit it. oh well. as each day goes by he does better. i think it's because he can predict his behavior better.

the one thing that didn't help the situation was the pants that paul wore over the first day Jake lived here. pauls pants were all shredded in the knees so they had little dangley strings. naturally jake said 'ooo dangley strings, fun stuff!' and proceeded to try to play with them. nothing says hello like a cat attaching himself to your knees.

but jake is a cool little guy. he's around a year old and jet black. he's got two little white spots, one on his chest and one on his belly. (the same places blue had his) he also has a few white armpit hairs. he can stand on his back feet really well and hides behind my speakers when i am gone. (that behavior is a mystery, but EVERY TIME i have come home, that is where he is.) he also likes to do random divey/flip things into the carpet. its super cute.
another good things is he hasn't tried to kill any of my other pets yet.

he was named jake after jake from the blues brothers. he's got that black and white thing going on and he started out in jail. it just works for him.

yay! cats!

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[> Subject: Re: the little beast


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carolyn
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Date Posted: 12:07:35 06/01/03 Sun

Jake is a good name. I'm still calling mine Littlecat. I am also occasionally calling him "Scout" or "Weasel-ball". Somehow weasel-ball is fitting.

When he really gets into kitten-crackhead mode, he tears around the apartment, just running laps or jumping on and off furniture. A lot of this running is that weasel/ferret style with his back arched up and bouncing gait. Hence the name, Weasel-ball.

I can sympathize with Paul on the pants thing. I have scratches all up and down my legs from the kitten trying (and succeeding) to climb me. He is especially prone to this behavior when I am preparing his food. I stand at the counter, put the food in his dish and Kitty's, then clean up a bit. When it's time to actually give them the food, Kitty runs to his placemat (making noise the whole time--a sound like Marge Simpson's groan of disapproval), and the Littlecat does the weasel-run to the bathroom, where he is fed.

How big is Jake? Not that large if he's dangling from pants legs, huh? Kitty weighed 15 pounds at his last vet check--he's now on a diet, and will weigh in again next week. Littlecat weighed 1 pound, 8 ounces when I brought him home. He's gained about 5 or 6 ounces since then. I thought about it the other night, my little 1.5 pound kitten, and realized that I weigh about as much as 120 kittens. Give yourself a minute to get the visual. :)

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[> [> Subject: Re: the little beast


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Sam
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Date Posted: 14:23:36 06/01/03 Sun

>since then. I thought about it the other night, my
>little 1.5 pound kitten, and realized that I weigh
>about as much as 120 kittens. Give yourself a minute
>to get the visual. :)

That's enough static electricity to jump start a car on a cold morning.

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[> Subject: Re: the little beast


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 12:03:33 06/04/03 Wed

>
>he was named jake after jake from the blues brothers.
>he's got that black and white thing going on and he
>started out in jail. it just works for him.
>
>yay! cats!

So that would be why you called my store and abruptly demanded to know whether it was Jake or Elwood that was in prison, then yelled "YES!" when I told you it was Jake and promptly hung up? One of my little mysteries has been solved.

And, as a review, folks, let's all remember that he was called "Joliet Jake" because of his stint in prison.

Ah, yes. The one movie in which we get to see Frank Oz handling a used condom. God (or other major deity of your choice) bless the Blues Brothers.

Your choice in names is stellar. Ya make yer big sister proud....

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Subject: buh?


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 12:53:50 05/23/03 Fri

Well, Caro, there seems to be several posts missing. I dunno what's up, except that this site is free and sometimes it's pretty fugly.

If I decide to do this right--which I may well do--I'm going to just buy my own domain name and get hosting somewhere and then go ahead and do something like the whole livejournal thing so we don't have to do this crappy forum.

IN the meanwhile, may I suggest copying stuff you post so that you can repost if necessary?

--sarahchia (wearing her forum admin cap)

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[> Subject: Re: buh?


Author:
Evo Terra
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Date Posted: 18:40:03 05/26/03 Mon

>I
>dunno what's up, except that this site is free and
>sometimes it's pretty fugly.

I think it goes beyond the pretty side of fugly, Sarah. Don't get me wrong, yer blog posts kick serious botanical booty. But this forum (and the fact I can't link to a specific post in the blog) applies vacuum force to the same anatomical area... if a plant had one.


>If I decide to do this right--which I may well do--I'm
>going to just buy my own domain name and get hosting
>somewhere and then go ahead and do something like the
>whole livejournal thing so we don't have to do this
>crappy forum.

YEAH RUSH! Might I suggest HostMatters? I use them for two different sites. Dirt cheap. Great support. http://hostmatters.com I think. No, I don't work for them. Got turned on to them by another blogger. She didn't lie. Oh, and try MovableType as your blogging software. I've used a couple tools and found it to be the most user friendly.

Namaste,

Evo

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[> [> Subject: Re: buh?


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 12:30:56 05/27/03 Tue

>I think it goes beyond the pretty side of fugly,
>Sarah. Don't get me wrong, yer blog posts kick serious
>botanical booty. But this forum (and the fact I can't
>link to a specific post in the blog) applies vacuum
>force to the same anatomical area... if a plant had
>one.
>
>
>>If I decide to do this right--which I may well do--I'm
>>going to just buy my own domain name and get hosting
>>somewhere and then go ahead and do something like the
>>whole livejournal thing so we don't have to do this
>>crappy forum.
>
>YEAH RUSH! Might I suggest HostMatters? I use them for
>two different sites. Dirt cheap. Great support.
>http://hostmatters.com I think. No, I don't work for
>them. Got turned on to them by another blogger. She
>didn't lie. Oh, and try MovableType as your blogging
>software. I've used a couple tools and found it to be
>the most user friendly.
>
>Namaste,
>
>Evo

Thanks for the information. The thing is, that right now I'm doing this all without *actually owning a computer*, and I am DEFINITELY on the "broke" side of the monetary equation, so things that are free are really important right now.

That being said, I am fairly certain that in the next few months I am going to get fed up, save up a few bucks, and move this whole shebang into something a lot sexier and user-friendly. I've had more than a few people get on my case for having such an archaic and crufty blog, and while my basic attitude is "Hey, I'm broke, short on time, and if you don't like it, well, don't read it", I also know how frustrating it can be to WANT to interact with something and not be able to because it's a royal pain in the arse. So I'm fairly sure that one of my long-term projects is going to be making this blog enter the 21st century kicking and screaming. I want to just get my own URL/domain and host it to the server at work (one of the benefits of having a webmaster who is married to my business partner....) and then try to find a machine that I can buy. Thing is, I DON'T want to just get a crappy computer; that's always been what I've done and I hate it, because I'm used to using the sleek and beautiful machines that my friends own, so going home and using a Pentium with a 33 mHz processor is just painful. So I'm going to have to wait until I can afford something, which may be a while, especially since I have other major purchases higher on the priority list at this moment--like paying off debts and repairing my cello.

But thanks for the information. I am currently in the "collecting" phase and when I get to the "doing" phase all the shtuff I've been hearing from bloggers with shiny, workable, pretty blogs will come in handy.

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Subject: D'OH!


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 19:49:12 05/21/03 Wed

Emily, honeypea, you need to remember that this is a PUBLIC forum. No posting of addresses, okay? So I took down that post, and here's the part that didn't have your address for all the world to see:

"i too vote for littlecat. even if littlecat turns into a huge simon sized pumpkin cat it'll still be funny.

i also like jasper.

i sorta named my new canary jasper but not completely. His full name is Peanut Jasper Kunler but he just gets called PJ.

Canaries are a lot of fun. he talks to me when i get home. and he is starting to sing, which is always a fun process to observe.

but yeah. stick with littlecat."

What would you do if it weren't for your big sister? Besides get a bigger inheritance, that is.

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[> Subject: Re: D'OH!


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 09:02:53 05/22/03 Thu

Hmmm...I posted something yesterday that doesn't seem to be here today. I must have done something wrong, but I'm not sure what.


Even though I almost never call Kitty "Arthur" it is his "real" name, so I kinda want something that goes with Arthur to be Littlecat's "real" name. And by real, I'm pretty sure I mean "The name that goes on the vet's paperwork so it doesn't look like I'm a tool when it comes to naming my animals."

Arthur is named from literary characters, so I want to keep with that theme. I could call Littlecat "Scout" but that might be too cute. He's certainly not dignified enough to be called Atticus. I am considering "Finch" because that could work well for a cat.

I could also choose a name that fits with another literary Arthur. "Ford Prefect" is a crappy name for a cat. Zaphod? Could I call a kitten Zaphod?

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[> [> Subject: Re: D'OH!


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 15:59:49 05/22/03 Thu

>I could also choose a name that fits with another
>literary Arthur. "Ford Prefect" is a crappy name for
>a cat. Zaphod? Could I call a kitten Zaphod?

Well, I like "Ford" myself, but if you want literary Arthur; how about "Lance" or "Merle"?

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: D'OH!


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emily
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Date Posted: 19:40:36 05/22/03 Thu

public forums. bah. no one ever stalks me cause of people like you.

wiener.

i was aware of the risks..but who comes to your page anyway?

tee hee

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: D'OH!


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 10:53:31 05/23/03 Fri

>public forums. bah. no one ever stalks me cause of
>people like you.
>
>wiener.
>
>i was aware of the risks..but who comes to your page
>anyway?
>
>tee hee

We don't know. I do know that I have removed some spam postings, and at least ONE total fucking stranger has posted, and if you go do a Google search for "herbivorous" my page is like #2, and we have no idea who READS this, just that not many people post.

SO yes, I'm paranoid. You're also my little sister, and if you read the posts it doesn't take a genius to figure out that you're female, a recent college grad, and you haven't mentioned roommates. Better safe than sorry. You have the emails of all these people, anyway.

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Subject: Littlecat


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 07:54:21 05/20/03 Tue

Hey all, I need assistance. Last night I got suckered into taking in a tiny baby kitten. He's smaller than a guinea pig--he weighs a pound and a half.

All together now: AWWWW!

I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to keep him. I need to see if he and Kitty can get along okay. I can't find that out until I'm sure Littlecat is healthy and free of fleas. He was covered in fleas when I got him home. I bathed him and picked a bunch off him with tweezers (he hated it so much), but there are still a few lurking on his itty bitty body. I'm taking him to the vet today, spending money I don't have, and getting him checked out. He seems healthy enough, but I want to make sure.

Anyhow, I'll get him checked, keep him quarantined in the bathroom for several days, then introduce him to Kitty for real (they've seen each other, but not had any physical contact). If they get along, I can keep him.

Here's where ya'll come in. I need a better name than "Littlecat" for him. How lame am I to have pets named Kitty and Littlecat? And what if Littlecat gets big?

Is is dumb to name him before I know I can keep him? I'm afraid "Littlecat" will stick as his name, the way "Kitty" has. I couldn't come up with a fitting name for him before "Kitty" stuck.

Name suggestions anyone? I prefer people names. Littlecat is orange and white with blue eyes and big ears. Kitten advice is also appreciated, as I've never had one before.

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[> Subject: Re: Littlecat


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 09:41:56 05/20/03 Tue

I reccomend: "Earl".

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[> [> Subject: Re: Littlecat


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 17:01:28 05/20/03 Tue

>I reccomend: "Earl".


"Earl" is great, but I have to say that there is something oddly appealing about having two cats named 'Kitty' and 'Littlecat'.

How about "Herbie"? Or maybe, if he can carry it, "Julian"?
He might be too bitsy of a mite to actually hold that name, but it is a good cat name.

"Buster" is also a good name, especially if you are a fan of Buster Keaton. Besides, it's kind of a people name, and definitely something that reminds you of a somewhat hyperactive dog, so giving an itsy lil' kitten the name "Buster" is pretty damn cute, if you ask me.

You CANNOT steal this name, but my next cat will be named "Hazel Pethig". Hazel Pethig was the costumer for Monty Python's Flying Circus, and I've always loved her name. Hopefully my next cat will be female.

sarahchia

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Subject: Here's one for yuh.


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 21:21:44 05/13/03 Tue

What's the adjective that means "possessing the quality of integrity"? Integral? Integrous? I was mentally composing a sentance and had gotten to the stage where I've got very specific concepts and wordflow layed out but when I got to the mental symbol structure to describe the person, I did a vocab call and hit a complete blank.

I think I like "integriness".

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[> Subject: Re: Here's one for yuh.


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 10:43:56 05/14/03 Wed

Um. How would you be using this word? I think that just saying "integrity" does it. If you're talking about moral integrity in a person, you don't say that the person "possesses the quality", you just say that s/he "has integrity".

Likewise, with structural integrity, you don't talk about a building possessing the quality of integrity, you just say that the building has good integrity--or doesn't, in the case of that one suspension bridge that they always show in physics classes that was shaken apart by the wind.

So I'm trying to think of a situation in which I would need to talk about someone "possessing the quality of integrity" rather than merely "possessing integrity", and I can't come up with anything. Clarify?


>What's the adjective that means "possessing the
>quality of integrity"? Integral? Integrous? I was
>mentally composing a sentance and had gotten to the
>stage where I've got very specific concepts and
>wordflow layed out but when I got to the mental symbol
>structure to describe the person, I did a vocab call
>and hit a complete blank.
>
>I think I like "integriness".

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[> [> Subject: Re: Here's one for yuh.


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 11:00:31 05/14/03 Wed

>Um. How would you be using this word? I think that
>...

"I'd say he's a very compassionate, forthright, and integritous person."

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Here's one for yuh.


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 11:23:07 05/14/03 Wed

>>Um. How would you be using this word? I think that
>>...
>
>"I'd say he's a very compassionate, forthright, and
>integritous person."


Honest to Dog, Sam, I had the exact same problem two days ago. Perhaps the adjective form of integrity does not exist. Between you, me, and Sarah--all intelligent, people, we should know this word, if it existed. I searched every bit of my vocabulator, and couldn't come up with anything. I like "integriness" but that's also a noun. What about "integrilous"? That's an adjective. Damn our language...there just aren't enough words.

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Date Posted: 22:13:07 05/14/03 Wed

>Honest to Dog, Sam, I had the exact same problem two
>days ago. Perhaps the adjective form of integrity

I love you, Carolyn. :)

>does not exist. Between you, me, and Sarah--all
>intelligent, people, we should know this word, if it
>existed. I searched every bit of my vocabulator, and
>couldn't come up with anything. I like "integriness"
>but that's also a noun. What about "integrilous"?
>That's an adjective. Damn our language...there just
>aren't enough words.

Bearing in mind that English has one of (if not _the_) largest vocabularies in the world.

Anyone got access to the OED? I bet there's some archaic word that fits. If not, I'm checking Klingon. I'm sure they've got something we can steal.

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Date Posted: 10:26:05 05/15/03 Thu

>>Honest to Dog, Sam, I had the exact same problem two
>>days ago. Perhaps the adjective form of integrity
>
>I love you, Carolyn. :)
>
>>does not exist. Between you, me, and Sarah--all
>>intelligent, people, we should know this word, if it
>>existed. I searched every bit of my vocabulator, and
>>couldn't come up with anything. I like "integriness"
>>but that's also a noun. What about "integrilous"?
>>That's an adjective. Damn our language...there just
>>aren't enough words.
>
>Bearing in mind that English has one of (if not _the_)
>largest vocabularies in the world.
>
>Anyone got access to the OED? I bet there's some
>archaic word that fits. If not, I'm checking Klingon.
>I'm sure they've got something we can steal.

Sam. You work for a *university*. I bet ya dollars to doughnuts that they subscribe to the online OED. U of I did, UNM did....just go to any computer that's linked into their network, and go to www.oed.com

You should probably be able to get right in.

I still stand by my initial reaction that it's commonly used as a clause "with integrity" rather than creating a word "integritiness".

But the OED definitely outranks us all.

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Date Posted: 12:45:27 05/15/03 Thu

>Sam. You work for a *university*. I bet ya dollars to
>doughnuts that they subscribe to the online OED. U of
>I did, UNM did....just go to any computer that's
>linked into their network, and go to www.oed.com

Ooo! I did not know that you could get into the oed site based on IP address. The only oed I ever used at UofI was the commandline unix one and I know we don't have that here.

HA!

HA-HA!

Integrous:

[f. L. integer, integr- + -OUS.]

Obs. rare.

Marked by integrity; = INTEGRE, INTEGRIOUS.

1657 W. MORICE Coena quasi Def. xx. 174 That an action be good, the
cause ought to be integrous.

>I still stand by my initial reaction that it's
>commonly used as a clause "with integrity" rather than
>creating a word "integritiness".

Yes, indeed, that is how it is commonly used. That was never in debate. I was looking for an _uncommon_ usage and found it. Woo!

>But the OED definitely outranks us all.

*BOOM!*

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Date Posted: 17:39:38 05/14/03 Wed

I'd say that I'd look at you a bit funny, but understand what you're saying. Probably, what most people would say is, "I'd say he's a very compassionate, forthright person with a lot of integrity."

So basically what it amounts to is that MOST people would find "integritous" to be ungrammatical (in the linguistic sense of "hey, that doesn't sound right. I wouldn't use that in my speech/writing."), and instead would use some sort of adjective phrase (or would it be adverbial? God, I'm rusty.)

Of course, language change being what it is, there's no guarantee that in 25 years most people would find "integritous" to be completely acceptable, but for me, it's a lot like "irregardless"--it makes my skin crawl just a little bit.

>>Um. How would you be using this word? I think that
>>...
>
>"I'd say he's a very compassionate, forthright, and
>integritous person."

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Subject: 3 answers


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Date Posted: 19:59:16 05/12/03 Mon

my roommate beckys says
1. madonna's house
2. u2
3. aston kucher

i say
1. playboy mansion. sarah is right about that one
2. incubus
3. danny masterson

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Date Posted: 09:15:55 05/13/03 Tue

>i say
>1. playboy mansion. sarah is right about that one
>2. incubus
>3. danny masterson


I'm sorry, Emily, Incubus is the suckiest band to ever suck. I wouldn't be able to get within a hundred yards of your party at the Playboy mansion without my ears bleeding.

Playboy mansion is a good location, though.

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Date Posted: 16:23:29 05/13/03 Tue

such harsh words! incubus is good, especially their old stuff...like science. certain shade of green is a freaking GREAT song. bah. granted they are now WAY overplayed and the little teenie boppers that drool over Brandon need to be beat, but i can say i was part of it before the evil occured.

and in my defense, i post the lyrics. but you really need to hear in order to appreciate. any truly rockin song written about the asshole that doesn't go on green is okay in my book.

From the album "S.C.I.E.N.C.E."

A certain shade of green,
tell me, is that what you need?
All signs around say move ahead.
Could someone please explain to me your ever present
lack of speed?
Are your muscles bound by ropes?
Or do crutches cloud your day?
My sources say the road is clear,
and street signs point the way.
Are you gonna stand around till 2012 A.D.?
What are you waiting for,
A certain shade of green?
I think I grew a gray watching you procrastinate.
What are you waiting for,
A certain shade of green?
Would a written invitation
signed, "Choose now or lose it all,"
sedate your hesitation?
Or inflame and make you stall?
You've been raised in limitation,
but that glove never fit quite right.
The time has come for hand-me-downs,
choose anew, please evolve,
take flight
What are you waiting for?
A written invitation?
A public declaration?
A private consolation?

but i can respect other opinions. sorta.
:)

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Date Posted: 11:34:44 05/14/03 Wed

my three answers:

1. playboy mansion or perhaps ashton kucher's house
2. they might be giants
3. supaporn dongkhair


and i would just like to say that *i know* it is completely wrong to laugh at someone's name. for one thing, people don't often get to choose their own. and for another, this woman is from another country, with another culture, and for all i know her name means something wonderful, like "celebrated beauty". that said, the juvenile part of me (the part that wishes it was stoned right now, 'cause that would make it uncontrollably funny) is going, "Supaporn Dongkhair! HA!!!" Nevermind that Miss Dongkhair is the Elephant Pageant Queen or whatever...her name alone is making me grin.

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Date Posted: 17:42:41 05/14/03 Wed

>my three answers:
>
>1. playboy mansion or perhaps ashton kucher's house
>2. they might be giants
>3. supaporn dongkhair
>
>
>and i would just like to say that *i know* it is
>completely wrong to laugh at someone's name. for one
>thing, people don't often get to choose their own.
>and for another, this woman is from another country,
>with another culture, and for all i know her name
>means something wonderful, like "celebrated beauty".
>that said, the juvenile part of me (the part that
>wishes it was stoned right now, 'cause that would make
>it uncontrollably funny) is going, "Supaporn
>Dongkhair! HA!!!" Nevermind that Miss Dongkhair is
>the Elephant Pageant Queen or whatever...her name
>alone is making me grin.


Can I just say that if the universe has given you a name that looks like "Super Porn Dong Hair" in ANY language, that you are either a) Dealing with a universe/deity that has a really perverse and/or infantile sense of humor, or b) Damn. Karma sucks.

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Date Posted: 22:03:50 05/14/03 Wed

>Can I just say that if the universe has given you a
>name that looks like "Super Porn Dong Hair" in ANY
>language, that you are either a) Dealing with a
>universe/deity that has a really perverse and/or
>infantile sense of humor, or b) Damn. Karma sucks.

"That's just Fate again; living up to its bargain and screwing us in the fine print." - John Chriton, "Farscape"

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Date Posted: 06:36:12 05/15/03 Thu

>>Can I just say that if the universe has given you a
>>name that looks like "Super Porn Dong Hair" in ANY
>>language, that you are either a) Dealing with a
>>universe/deity that has a really perverse and/or
>>infantile sense of humor, or b) Damn. Karma sucks.

Can I just tell you all that I'd forgotten about this unfortunate name until I returned to work this morning. Now I'm sitting here reading the forum and laughing like Beavis and Butthead again about Super Porn Dong Hair. If my boss were to come in right now, she would probably send me to pee in a cup.

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Subject: Water Hemlock


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Sam
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Date Posted: 19:13:43 05/13/03 Tue

Mmmmm. Forby.

Yeah, that's a good one. But the dose seems a little high to be practical.

Unless it tastes good, then you could maybe sneek some into a salad. I think foxglove is still a better alternative.

Make an extract, mix it with something sweet, and *boom* instant heart attack.

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Date Posted: 19:37:47 05/13/03 Tue

Nah. Foxglove is a very touchy drug/plant; the alkaloid content can vary hugely from plant to plant, and you might end up just fucking someone up a bit and having a VERY detectable alkaloid left in the bloodstream. Not very defensible.

But if you DO choose to go that route, you're gonna want to use Grecian foxglove rather than common foxglove. Higher alkaloid content.

>Mmmmm. Forby.
>
>Yeah, that's a good one. But the dose seems a little
>high to be practical.
>
>Unless it tastes good, then you could maybe sneek some
>into a salad. I think foxglove is still a better
>alternative.
>
>Make an extract, mix it with something sweet, and
>*boom* instant heart attack.

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Subject: stalling


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Date Posted: 14:44:40 05/05/03 Mon

I'm stalling. And writing here always seems like a good way to stall.

My options right now are
a) go home and study for a plant bio test
b) go home and study for a business admin test
c) sit here in a pleasently cool room and ramble.

the studying will be about as fun as pulling my own toenails out so i am still here. and, i haven't flunked out yet, so what are two more test? (okay...I do HAVE to pass my business admin one since i flunked my midterm...but that's only because i NEVER studied for it. i still have lots of hours before the test tomorrow)

hrmm. back to my original thoughts.

sarah claims revenge for my little address fun, but i think she is too chicken to do anything. ha.

i have offically moved the vast majority of my shit to wisconsin. i am depressed. wisonsin sucks. i wish i would have realized that BEFORE i got the job and signed the lease. what kind of dumb ass state has cities named Wawatosa and Wautoma? Shit. Oh well. At least my apartment kicks ass.

The apartment is small. But it's just me. No shitty roommates. sweet. paul painted my kitchen blue and my bedroom is purple. i fucking love it. i have a porch. natural light. :)

things will work out. i hope.

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Date Posted: 10:09:21 05/06/03 Tue

>sarah claims revenge for my little address fun, but i
>think she is too chicken to do anything. ha.
>
>i have offically moved the vast majority of my shit to
>wisconsin. i am depressed. wisonsin sucks. i wish i
>would have realized that BEFORE i got the job and
>signed the lease. what kind of dumb ass state has
>cities named Wawatosa and Wautoma? Shit.

Well, I *was* going to come up with some sort of revenge, but then I thought--You're stuck in a state with cities with names like Wawatosa and Wautoma, whereas I live in a state where I regularily see waterfalls along the *highway*.

Living well is the best revenge.

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Date Posted: 12:51:55 05/06/03 Tue

Heh.

re: The Streets: It's not a "they" it's a "he".

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Date Posted: 15:27:35 05/06/03 Tue

living well...ha.

i have the streets. you do not. i win.

ps. i also have not one but 2 white stripes albums. and i have the British strokes version. ha. better album art.

ha ha.

living well my ass. granted you have lots of waterfalls. those are cool...but i have lots of beer. and cheese. and meat. what else could one ask for?

:P

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Date Posted: 07:00:02 05/07/03 Wed

>waterfalls. those are cool...but i have lots of beer.
> and cheese. and meat. what else could one ask for?
>
>:P

I have none of the albums mentioned. Not one. I am too poor to buy cds. I also do not have waterfalls. Know why? Because there are no goddamn hills here. The only hill in the city is man made, and 27.5 feet tall. It does have a waterfall built into it, but that's also man made.

As for beer and meet and cheese...I have boiled crawfish and you don't. ha. And I can buy big shrimp for like $3 a pound. Sure, I'm buying it from an igloo cooler off the back of some dude's pickup truck, but it's freshly caught. ;)

We have cities with names like Boutte (boo-tee) and Bogue Chitto and Natchitoches (pronounced "nack-a-desh"--God knows why).

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Date Posted: 19:08:14 05/07/03 Wed

'k. On the beer argument:

You lose. Sorry. I am in the Land of Microbrews, and I will put a Weinhardt's Blackberry Ale up against Milwaukee's Best any day. Hell, I'd even put it up against a Point. And Point's pretty good. Don't even get me started about Deschute's Brewery. It's turning a beer-hater into someone who is regularily going, "Hey, that's pretty good!"


As for cheese--You have more, sure, but Tillamook is pretty good, and I actually prefer imported cheeses, and I can get those anywhere pretentious groceries are sold. Yes, Mars Cheese Castle is a sign of a benevolent creator, but it doesn't beat the fact that there are about 6,235,976,071 different spots for me to pick blueberries, blackberries, raspberries, loganberries, and huckleberries this summer. Some of them in my back yard.

Meat?

The possibility for bad jokes here is almost infinite, so I will simply politely raise an eyebrow and move along to the next topic, which is--

SO BURN ME SOME COPIES OF THE DAMN CDS AND SEND 'EM OUT, ALREADY! A bubble mailer doesn't cost *that* much. And I just sent Toby a huge wad of herbs and such for free, I should have *some* sort of goodwill points from the Illinois crew.

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Date Posted: 17:55:18 05/08/03 Thu

you beg for packages. i have sent you more then i can remember. you only send packages when i am DYING in the middle of no where.

so once i get some mail of fun stuff we'll talk.

you have a lot of making up to do.

ps. i redid the ducky bathroom in my new place. ducky version 2.0. sweet

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Date Posted: 10:42:36 05/10/03 Sat

Carolyn, you are super-cool. Emily, yeah, well, I have a big ol' Package of Coolness waiting for you here, but I'm not gonna send it until you're really moved cos I don't want it to get destroyed.

So there.

Cough up the CDs.

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Date Posted: 06:46:03 05/09/03 Fri

chia, i am sending you stuff soon. I have one tape that has several episodes of punk'd on it. the same video also has about the first ten minutes of "what not to wear" on it, then it gets cut off. so the second video has the rest of the episode, except a few minutes when i was going, "Dammit!" a lot and searching for another tape. i will try to put a couple more episodes of either show on there for you then send it.

emily, i feel for you, i know what it's like to not get packages very often. the next one i get is herbs. i send tapes of shows, she sends plant matter crushed into pill form. *sigh* :)

emily, you will need to send me your address sometime soon, so i can send your graduation present. :)

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Subject: the forum is stagnating


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Date Posted: 07:22:39 04/30/03 Wed

Hey, now it's my turn to try to get things moving again. The forum has just been sitting for days without new posts. I rely on this shit to entertain me for *minutes* of my day while at work. This is important, people!

I will share with you my commentary on the Tori Amos concert last night. It kinda blew. Kidding, of course, it was fabulous. Rhett Miller (who???) opened for her. He was okay, definitely nice to look at. He did one song that I think has potential for Emily's love song CD. I don't remember what it was called, but I do remember being impressed.

Tori covered Madonna last night ("If I Live to Tell"), which was wicked awesome. She did a few songs that I so didn't expect to hear at a show (Not the Red Baron), and something that I completely didn't recognize. I don't know if anyone really did. Ya know how when you're at a concert and a song just starts, it takes a couple of notes for the audience to know what's being played? Then when everyone recognizes the tune there's a big "Wooooooo!" Like, "Yeah! I know what song that is!" :P This one song (what the hell it's called, I certainly don't know) she starts playing, everyone applauds because she's--well, because she's present on stage and touching a piano--starting, but there was never the big WOOOOOOOOO of recognition. It was kinda odd.

The other thing that made me smile a lot during the show was that there was a young woman sitting across the aisle from me. She was holding an infant less than a year old throughout the show. What a lucky baby! The baby fell asleep after a few songs, but while she was awake, the baby was staring SO intently at the stage. It was cool. And mom was cool and kept the kid's ears covered for a most of the show (all but about three songs, when she was awake) so the poor child wasn't deafened by the loud music. The baby didn't cry once. I was so impressed.

I'm fuckin' tired today. We came straight home after the show, but still that was significantly past my usual bedtime. I got up early today to go work out. Every time we layed down to do situps I wanted to just fall asleep on my little mat, like preschool naptime.

I'm at work now, and have about a half hour to kill before I have a bullshit meeting to attend. Someone post something--anything.
caro

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Date Posted: 12:05:23 04/30/03 Wed

Hmm. Ok. here's "something". Specifically an email I sent out earlier today.

Quoting Jonathan Prykop :

Many people seem to subscribe to the notion that the whole of reality is not knowable, and still believe that the whole of reality is constrained by a definitive ruleset. This is where I feel there's a problem--that extra
bit of belief can be the difference between reasonable model agnosticism and rationalist fundamentalism.


No no no. The fact that some of the universe is unknowable/indeterminate doesn't mean that all of it is unknowable or indeterminate. And scientists don't talk about the whole of reality; they talk about what's observable and understandable in it.

Is "unevaluatable" equivalent to "meaningless" in
Godel's sense?


Well, there is a strong isomorphism between "mathematically
unevaluatable" (The truth value of this expression cannot be determained) and the logical positivist "meaningless" (The truth value of that statement cannot be determained and near as we can tell, that will always be the case).

Or are we literally speaking of meaningful statements that are neither true nor false? If we're speaking of meaningful statements, couldn't such statements just be added to the assumptions of our system to complete it,
or did Godel show there's an infinite regress of meaningful statements that are unevaluatable?


For me to really answer this you need to *GASP!* define what you mean by "meaningful". In formal logic (which is what is most applicable to this subject) meaningful by definition means you can determine it's truth value. Please reread that. It don't say "This statement is true in some sense and false in some sense" or "This statement is both true and false", it means just what it says: we cannot determine whether it is a true expression or not.

If we've got an infinite regress of unevaluatable meaningful statements, and we consider the universe to be complete (all that exists is true, and that which doesn't exist is false), doesn't that mean the universe is either inconsistent or simply not bound by set rules? I mean, there seems to be a valid choice between omnipossibility and omniabsurdity, but omnirationality seems to rule itself out quite nicely. Insomuch as the universe truthfully exists, it isn't bound by consistent rules.

Ok, jon. Here is where you lose.

Godel's theorem describes *MATH*. It exclusively applies to formal symbol manipulation systems with axioms, theorems, and binary truth values. True, he showed that it applies to *ALL* of them. Everywhere, everywhen, everyhow. (Provided they are reasonably powerful systems. (Where "reasonably powerfull" is very carefully defined.) And it's not an infinate regress at all. What he showed was that in any system of logical symbol manipulation you could construct a self-refferential expression that negates itself. This is exactly isomorphic to the Empodoclean paradox; that is, he taught math how to say "This is a false statement".

Sure, you can have that as an axiom, no problem, (and you get some really interesting math as a result) and *poof* your system can be Complete. But it's no longer Consistant. Self-contradictory ideas are extrodinarily usefull to
human consciousness, but they play hell on math and are generally just a bad idea.

Math does not undergrid reality. Math is a _description_ of reality. Godel's theorem just shows us that it can never be perfect system.


Yes jon, it could all be done by a league of etheric wombats, but until we findone, we say "F=MA".

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Date Posted: 13:33:34 04/30/03 Wed

Sigh. Every time I start to read "Godel, Escher, Bach", I move, and never finish it.

Would somebody send me a copy of that?

But this whole argument amused me, because I totally agree with you, Sam. Mathematics is a system, and all too often I've seen it treated like it's not a model, but some Holy Bible Truth of How The Universe Works. I was waiting for your punchline as soon as I saw the phrase "the whole of reality is constrained by a definitive ruleset". I thought, oh, one of THESE arguments. Sigh.

Although I don't have the math that I'd like, I certainly feel that I have a pretty concrete understanding of the difference between my ability to create a useful model of the world around me, and my utter lack of ability to say that the Universe *IS* a certain way or another.

This, of course, does not mean that we have to throw up our hands and say, "Well, what's the fucking point! I don't know anything!" Clearly, we can make discoveries that allow us to manipulate the world around us (and no, sam, I am not going to define 'world', 'around', or 'us'--yes, I should, but I'm being lazy here) to a remarkable degree. Just as Newtonian physics are demonstrably "incorrect", yet it's very useful to use the mathematics behind them for simple ballistic problems, just because something isn't Truth doesn't mean it's not Useful. Here, of course, I'm speaking about mathematics, but also a lot of the techniques used by shamans, physicians, and artists since we've become aware of the way our brains can manipulate stuff.

However, I do see a disturbing trend by many mathematics buffs to act like their framework--which is utterly useful, beautiful, complex and remarkable--is actually something which Underpins the Structure of The Universe. Bullshit. All it proves is that a simian group of carbon-based lifeforms have managed to come up with some really neat ideas that serve them very well. We can certainly describe the system in which we seem to be living, but I also think that proper intellectual rigour requires us to remember that it could all be absolute bunk.

The above rant has all sorts of holes in it and wasn't particularly well thought out, so of course you may rip it to shreds in your normal cheerful bull-in-a-china shop manner, Sam my dear.

And Carolyn--She played "Not the Red Baron"? I'm jealous. That's one of my favorite songs. When I got my heart ripped out by this one guy, I listened to that song _all the time_ because it reminded me there is another side to the story, and that guys get their hearts broken all the time, too. It helped, in an odd way.

That, and I read that really creepy book _Permanent Midnight_ about the guy who was a writer for the tv show "Alf" and a total fucking junky. It is the darkest, most depressing book, but for whatever reason, it helped. That and "Not the Red Baron". I have no idea why reading about a junky in LA and listening to a song about a plane crash helped me get over heartbreak, but then again, we're not dealing with logic here.

I think it's awesome that that woman brought her kid. What an amazing lullabye that would be, a hella buncha Tori. And of course the kid was quiet. I mean, if your mom was cool enough to take you to a Tori show, I bet that *you'd* be a mellow infant, too. Either that, or she dosed the kid with a bunch of chamomile tea before they left. Chamomile tea is often an effective 'off' switch for infants.

I fully plan on being the cool mom who takes her baby to a tori show.

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Date Posted: 11:00:17 05/02/03 Fri

>I fully plan on being the cool mom who takes her baby
>to a tori show.


1. Yeah, I hope I'm that mom, too.

2. I don't know if you know this about me, but I am *completely* mesmerized by babies. I do my best not to stare when I see them in public--some grown-ups would be weirded out by it--but I am just fascinated by them. For about three songs I was looking back and forth between Tori on stage and the baby in the audience as if they were playing a tennis match against each other. Tori won.

3. I am not even going to touch the discussion about math and the knowable universe. I'm clearly out of my league.

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[> Subject: Re: the forum is stagnating


Author:
VANDEN BERGE, ROB
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Date Posted: 21:55:22 05/03/03 Sat

>Hey, now it's my turn to try to get things moving
>again. The forum has just been sitting for days
>without new posts. I rely on this shit to entertain
>me for *minutes* of my day while at work. This is
>important, people!
>
>I will share with you my commentary on the Tori Amos
>concert last night. It kinda blew. Kidding, of
>course, it was fabulous. Rhett Miller (who???) opened
>for her. He was okay, definitely nice to look at. He
>did one song that I think has potential for Emily's
>love song CD. I don't remember what it was called,
>but I do remember being impressed.
>
>Tori covered Madonna last night ("If I Live to Tell"),
>which was wicked awesome. She did a few songs that I
>so didn't expect to hear at a show (Not the Red
>Baron), and something that I completely didn't
>recognize. I don't know if anyone really did. Ya
>know how when you're at a concert and a song just
>starts, it takes a couple of notes for the audience to
>know what's being played? Then when everyone
>recognizes the tune there's a big "Wooooooo!" Like,
>"Yeah! I know what song that is!" :P This one song
>(what the hell it's called, I certainly don't know)
>she starts playing, everyone applauds because
>she's--well, because she's present on stage and
>touching a piano--starting, but there was never the
>big WOOOOOOOOO of recognition. It was kinda odd.
>
>The other thing that made me smile a lot during the
>show was that there was a young woman sitting across
>the aisle from me. She was holding an infant less
>than a year old throughout the show. What a lucky
>baby! The baby fell asleep after a few songs, but
>while she was awake, the baby was staring SO intently
>at the stage. It was cool. And mom was cool and kept
>the kid's ears covered for a most of the show (all but
>about three songs, when she was awake) so the poor
>child wasn't deafened by the loud music. The baby
>didn't cry once. I was so impressed.
>
>I'm fuckin' tired today. We came straight home after
>the show, but still that was significantly past my
>usual bedtime. I got up early today to go work out.
>Every time we layed down to do situps I wanted to just
>fall asleep on my little mat, like preschool naptime.
>
>I'm at work now, and have about a half hour to kill
>before I have a bullshit meeting to attend. Someone
>post something--anything.
>caro

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[> [> Subject: Re: the forum is stagnating


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 13:57:21 05/05/03 Mon

Chickenshit.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: the forum is stagnating


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 06:29:56 05/06/03 Tue

>Chickenshit.

Um, is the chickenshit who I think it is?

And, Mr. Rob Vandenberge, why just quote me without actually responding?

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Subject: Tired? Depressed? Bored? Get a drug habit!


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 13:37:14 04/30/03 Wed

So if the forum is boring, may I suggest giving me some feedback on the blog? Lemme know what links you like, which ones grossed you out, and whether or not I should just give up with the fucking Ani lyrics already.

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Subject: Speaking of disturbing food....


Author:
Emily
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Date Posted: 20:57:53 04/28/03 Mon

http://www.twinkiesproject.com/

go here. learn more about disturbing food.

i need to no longer be a college student. I fail miserably as one. i get up early. i go to bed before midnight. i never drink. go out? ha!

my life sort sucks.

at least I get a cat soon.

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Subject: This is a NEW thread


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 19:47:21 04/20/03 Sun

So post something, already. I check this fucker every day; ya'll have to have something to say.

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[> Subject: Re: This is a NEW thread


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 06:57:10 04/22/03 Tue

>So post something, already. I check this fucker every
>day; ya'll have to have something to say.


Geez, relax. This is the first time I've seen my desk in a week. We had a special event at the zoo last Tuesday that required much running around on my part, I had visits two hours away on Wednesday, then a trip to one of our guinea pig schools to start picking up animals (An albino pig called Simple Simon is living at my house right now, soon to be joined by half a dozen of his friends), then Thursday, Friday, and Monday were spent at zoo camp. I got called in as extra help because we had a kindergartener who is blind attending. You're bitching about your forum, but I was busy playing seeing-eye Carolyn to a kid at the zoo. That sounds like a really insensitive way to put it, but it's the truth and I'm too tired to sugar it up.

So here are my comments on what I've read recently at the forum and the blog:

1. Sam, you are a true math geek when you create a formula to explain/quantify your boob ogling tendencies. You should be proud. :)

2. Thumbs up for the salt scrub. The only problem is having to scrub oil out of the tub later.

3. I forgot.

4. Oh, now I remember.

5. I like the choice of love songs for Emily's CD. Emily, you should include that one. I would also like to nominate a far sillier but still cute love song: Be My Yoko Ono, by Barenaked Ladies. What says "I love you" like lyrics such as, "If I was John and you were Yoko I would gladly give up musical genius/ just to have you as my very own personal Venus..." I suppose if you want to read more into the song it suggests something depressing about what we give up for love, but if you take it at face value, you can still feel warm and fuzzy about the lyrics "barenaked as two virgins hand in hand and hand in hand in love".

6. Glad you liked the magnet. I instantly thought of you when I saw it.

7. I too, will confess to watching trash tv. No Jerry, certainly no Married by America, and I would sooner eat glass than watch Fear Factor or Mr. Personality, but....
I've been sucked in by American Idol. Those poor people don't seem to get that within a week of the show ending their fifteen minutes of fame will be up. They just keep going out and singing crappy songs, letting Simon abuse them, and crying when they get booted, as if it comes as a surprise that they aren't getting a recording contract instead. I keep watching, trying to figure out how that blonde brat Carmen stays on every week when she can't sing for shit. I'm fascinated by the show. I'm fascinated by the idea that *millions* of people are watching and calling in to vote for who they want to win the competition. Are all the people who dialed and redialed to vote for Kelly Clarkson still fans? Do they have Kelly posters on their walls? Would they camp out to get tickets to see her play? Perhaps, but I have a hard time believing it.

I'm getting off track. Point is, I watch trash telivision. I would like to call it embracing American pop culture (or however you tried to make it sound less shameful), but the fact is, I'm probably just as numb as any other brown polyester flare-legged pants wearing fool out there. :)

7. There's more, but I'm too tired to write. Besides, I have to go get ready to show bugs to preschoolers. Bleh.

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[> [> Subject: Re: This is a NEW thread


Author:
emily
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Date Posted: 21:26:18 04/22/03 Tue

i caught my lovely roomie watching mr. personality yesterday. she was embarrassed, but refused to turn it off.

so i left the room and laughed my ass off.

but i made her call me back in the room when punk'd was on.

for those of you who haven't seen punk'd yet, i'll give a brief description. Aston Kucher (Kelso on that 70's show) goes around pulling pranks on fellow celebs. great thing is he has an mtv budget and resources. everyone needs to see the episode with justin timberlake.

and my quick personal note to sarah. :P you suck. the rest of us just have suck ass lives to deal with.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: This is a NEW thread


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 09:30:32 04/23/03 Wed

punk'd is indeed quality television. i hadn't heard of it until last weekend, when someone mentioned it at work. the next day i found myself sitting in front of mtv for well over an hour, laughing my ass off.

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[> [> Subject: Re: This is a NEW thread


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sarahchia
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Date Posted: 11:18:48 04/23/03 Wed

>I'm getting off track. Point is, I watch trash
>telivision. I would like to call it embracing
>American pop culture (or however you tried to make it
>sound less shameful), but the fact is, I'm probably
>just as numb as any other brown polyester flare-legged
>pants wearing fool out there. :)
>
>

Okay, so yeah, I should have been more specific about the pants thing. I wasn't talking about cool, modern polyester pants, I was talking about brown Sansabelt polyester pants. The kind our math teachers wore in high school. THOSE polyester pants. So there was no implied criticism of Carolyn's pants, as Carolyn has some of the most swell dress sense of my friends.

And DAMMIT! Now I want cable! I've heard about punk'd twice now and it sounds ubercool.

I don't think you're numb, Caro. You are actually one of the people who's been a role model to me when it comes to embracing the Inner Trash. I mean, you WERE the one that dressed as "White Trash" for Halloween one year.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: This is a NEW thread


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Sam
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Date Posted: 12:38:48 04/23/03 Wed

Anything that lets us talk about carolyn's pants is a good thing, I'm thinking.

And as for kitsch, my dear, you're finally discovering the shear power and joy of Bulldada. There's a reason that I just *had* to buy that LP copy of Father Abraham Goes To Smurfland.

Oh, and I'm not a math geek. Lawrence Waterhouse is a math geek. I'm a computer geek. :)

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: This is a NEW thread


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carolyn
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Date Posted: 07:07:20 04/24/03 Thu

>Anything that lets us talk about carolyn's pants is a
>good thing, I'm thinking.

I'm not wearing any pants right now. And, Chia, I'm sorry to report that today I have the opposite of swell dress sense. I'm wearing a skirt that could be kinda decent if I didn't have my work shirt tucked into it, creating the ever attractive skirt wad. Certainly I know better than to wear this in public, but it was clean, less wrinkled than some of my other options, and doesn't require a belt, like all of my pants options (dress code requires a belt with all looped pants--i'm fixin' to hack the loops off some pants pretty soon because i really don't like belts).

And speaking of dress sense (were we?) my other new cable tve show (HA!) is What Not To Wear, on TLC. It's fucking great. People nominate their friends/family to be ambushed by New York fashion people and made over. But it's not just any makeover, like on A Makeover Story, it's hard core. They secretly tape you for, like, weeks, then ambush you in public, tell you you're dressed dreadfully, then offer you 5 grand to go with them. You must bring all of your clothes to them in New York, they dress you in them, tell you how and why they look horrible on you or anyone who would wear them, systematically throw them away, then *take you shopping*. You spend the $5000 on snazzy new duds, get a haircut and makeup by celebrity stylists, and are then turned loose.
It shouldn't be entertainment, but it is. I fucking love this show. I want to be on this show. I tried to convince Melissa to nominate me for it. She was worried that they would throw away my shoes.

>Oh, and I'm not a math geek. Lawrence Waterhouse is a
>math geek. I'm a computer geek. :)

A geek's a geek, darlin'. I'm turning into a science geek. Not a hard core science geek like some, lord no!, but a geek none the less. Only a geek would have bugs on her desk voluntarily.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: This is a NEW thread


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 10:25:56 04/24/03 Thu

>And speaking of dress sense (were we?) my other new
>cable tve show (HA!) is What Not To Wear, on TLC.
>It's fucking great. People nominate their
>friends/family to be ambushed by New York fashion
>people and made over. But it's not just any makeover,
>like on A Makeover Story, it's hard core. They
>secretly tape you for, like, weeks, then ambush you in
>public, tell you you're dressed dreadfully, then offer
>you 5 grand to go with them. You must bring all of
>your clothes to them in New York, they dress you in
>them, tell you how and why they look horrible on you
>or anyone who would wear them, systematically throw
>them away, then *take you shopping*. You spend the
>$5000 on snazzy new duds, get a haircut and makeup by
>celebrity stylists, and are then turned loose.
>It shouldn't be entertainment, but it is. I fucking
>love this show. I want to be on this show. I tried
>to convince Melissa to nominate me for it. She was
>worried that they would throw away my shoes.

Okay. I Have A Plan. You nominate me, and I'll nominate you, and we can HIDE all our good clothes/shoes somewhere for awhile. Because while I am COMPLETELY down with getting five grand to go shopping with fashion mavens in NYC, I am also unwilling to part with my Rocket Dog maryjane mules, and I am not getting rid of my cool black gauze shirt, nor the cheongsam dress that I wore for graduation. I have several friends whom I bet would do this. Hell, I bet I could hide my good shit in Greg's room. (He'll just have to pretend to be a raging transvestite for a few days. I bet he would--that's within the bounds of reasonable roommate favors, right? Pretending to be a transvestite? Sure it is. Why not?)

So how does one go about nominating a friend for this sort of humiliation?

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Subject: 4 people....


Author:
katya
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Date Posted: 17:42:26 04/23/03 Wed

Yet another person you don't know telling you to move to Eugene. It's all about the culture.

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[> Subject: Re: 4 people....


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 18:32:32 04/23/03 Wed

>Yet another person you don't know telling you to move
>to Eugene. It's all about the culture.

heya katya. don't know who you are, but hey, good to meet you and welcome to the forum.

yeah, eugene pretty much rocks.

i still miss chicago, but it ain't half bad, in any case.

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Subject: Shaw Island and Masculine Thought Patterns


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 14:45:19 04/16/03 Wed

No, I'd say that that's not how most guys think. That's how the character Ben thinks, and he's certainly not a typical example.

Now, if it had just been the third panel, that'd be a lot closer to the norm.

The typical thought patterns I experience in those kinds of situations (and they are pretty close to what most guys I've talked to about this think) is something like:

*CLEAVAGE DETECTED: BEARING 272 mark 300*
[Target aquired]
*INITIAL QUALITY RATING: 78% --
ALERT! ALERT! REDHEAD!
[Proceed with environmental assesment:]
--Noticed me: negative
--Otherwise distracted: negative
--Any other possible observers: negative
--Alertness level: Probable reading: 45%
[SCHEDUAL FUNCTION:
As P(d) increases, reduce both L(t) and L(n).
As B(q) increases, decrease weighting of other factors.

Where Probability of discovery [P(d)] is an aggregate of the environmental factors and Boobie quality [B(q)] must take into account coeffciants of clothing revelation.]

L(n) = 5 times
L(t) = 2 minutes

*BEGIN LOOK 1*
LOOP



Something like that.

And of course, you have to account for the "Butterface" syndrome.

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Subject: Residency


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 06:47:44 04/09/03 Wed

If you're feeling tormented about the Oregon driver's license, wait until you put Oregon plates on your car.


I've got the Louisiana license and plates. I kept my Illinois ones while I lived in Florida and Arizona, but when I got here I had to make the switch. Louisiana didn't require me to take any kind of test, just fill out a form with my address, height, weight, etc, and show proof of insurance. They let me keep my Illinois license, but punched holes in it. I've since lost it.

I was supposed to go have my car inspected and get my "brake tags" (I still don't know why they're called that) within 48 hours of getting my new plates. It's been almost two years now, and I haven't gotten around to it yet. I could have a whomping huge fine if I ever get pulled over and the cop sees that I don't have them. That makes me a little nervous, but not enough to actually go get it done. I'll just have to make a point of not getting pulled over. :)


UNRELATED, but I thought I'd share: It is shortly past eight in the morning. I am at my office with nothing to do. I thought I had a visit, so I rushed to get here by eight. As it turns out, I don't have anywhere be today. My boss does have a visit, and she's already gone. In theory, I could spend the entire day playing. I worked out from 6-7:15 this morning. My arms are so sore from working out that it's hard to type. I could have gone home after the torture...er, exercising and gone back to bed for another hour or two. Instead I came here. I'm getting paid, so it's not all bad, but still...my bed is so warm and soft with watermelon-colored t-shirt sheets. **Picture the bed in Haiku Tunnel, how it undulates when Josh pictures it**

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[> Subject: Re: Residency


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 09:10:54 04/09/03 Wed

>UNRELATED, but I thought I'd share: It is shortly
>past eight in the morning. I am at my office with
>nothing to do. I thought I had a visit, so I rushed
>to get here by eight. As it turns out, I don't have
>anywhere be today. My boss does have a visit, and
>she's already gone. In theory, I could spend the
>entire day playing. I worked out from 6-7:15 this
>morning. My arms are so sore from working out that
>it's hard to type. I could have gone home after the
>torture...er, exercising and gone back to bed for
>another hour or two. Instead I came here. I'm
>getting paid, so it's not all bad, but still...my bed
>is so warm and soft with watermelon-colored t-shirt
>sheets. **Picture the bed in Haiku Tunnel, how it
>undulates when Josh pictures it**

I know the feeling. I actually made a point to let myself sleep in til 6:30 today, and my boss is gone all the rest of the week. Getting up and coming in was incredibly difficult. "Uh..yeah..Rob...uh...my whole family died in a terrible plane crash and I'm a vegetable. Yeah. See yuh tommorrow."

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[> [> Subject: Re: Residency


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 22:51:05 04/10/03 Thu

Instead I came here. I'm
>>getting paid, so it's not all bad, but still...my bed
>>is so warm and soft with watermelon-colored t-shirt
>>sheets. **Picture the bed in Haiku Tunnel, how it
>>undulates when Josh pictures it**
>
>I know the feeling. I actually made a point to let
>myself sleep in til 6:30 today, and my boss is gone
>all the rest of the week. Getting up and coming in was
>incredibly difficult. "Uh..yeah..Rob...uh...my whole
>family died in a terrible plane crash and I'm a
>vegetable. Yeah. See yuh tommorrow."

You know, I've always wanted to call in dead, just once, to a job I knew I was gonna quit anyway, just to see what would happen.

"Yeah, I can't come to work today. I'm dead."

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Subject: Lyrics


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 19:54:21 04/01/03 Tue

"you are so beautiful
you should be guided by monkeys
you are so beautiful"

*GUARDED*

_GUARDED_ by monkeys.

1 Brides of Neptune (4:57)
2 Shine (4:20)
3 Don't Bring Us Down (4:02)
4 Guarded by Monkeys (4:22)
^^^^^^^

See?

Sigh.

Sorry.

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[> Subject: Re: Lyrics


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 21:28:26 04/01/03 Tue

god *dammit*
I've been mishearing that lyric for weeks now. And, goddammit, I think that "guided by monkeys" is so much cooler. Kind of like "guided by angels" except more simian.


>"you are so beautiful
>you should be guided by monkeys
>you are so beautiful"
>
>*GUARDED*
>
>_GUARDED_ by monkeys.
>
>1 Brides of Neptune (4:57)
>2 Shine (4:20)
>3 Don't Bring Us Down (4:02)
>4 Guarded by Monkeys (4:22)
> ^^^^^^^
>
>See?
>
>Sigh.
>
>Sorry.

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[> Subject: Re: Lyrics


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 09:32:08 04/03/03 Thu

whose lyrics are these, that sarah has been hearing wrong for weeks, apparently. i have never heard any song about anyone being guarded (or guided, for that matter) by monkeys. Not that i can afford to go buy cds.... I'm just curious.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Lyrics


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 09:47:43 04/03/03 Thu

>whose lyrics are these, that sarah has been hearing
>wrong for weeks, apparently. i have never heard any
>song about anyone being guarded (or guided, for that
>matter) by monkeys. Not that i can afford to go buy
>cds.... I'm just curious.

Cracker's latest (and finest) album: "Forever"

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Subject: Hey baby, you know what I wanna do to you...?


Author:
Carolyn
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Date Posted: 07:28:04 03/28/03 Fri

Last night I went to bed early, and apparently went into that coma-sleep where I don't notice the phone ringing even though it's 8 inches from my head. This morning I noticed that I'd missed a call that came in shortly after midnight. The good news (?) is that my caller left a voice mail.
Of course, said caller was an *obscene* caller, who described in quite some detail what he'd like to do with me. Some women would be freaked out, some would be amused, I just rolled my eyes when I listened to his lengthy (no pun intended) message this morning.
Here's the part that made me laugh out loud: at the end, *he left his phone number* so I could *call him back*.

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[> Subject: Re: Hey baby, you know what I wanna do to you...?


Author:
Sarahchia
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Date Posted: 10:09:07 03/28/03 Fri

So post the number. He'll get called back, I promise you.


>Last night I went to bed early, and apparently went
>into that coma-sleep where I don't notice the phone
>ringing even though it's 8 inches from my head. This
>morning I noticed that I'd missed a call that came in
>shortly after midnight. The good news (?) is that my
>caller left a voice mail.
>Of course, said caller was an *obscene* caller, who
>described in quite some detail what he'd like to do
>with me. Some women would be freaked out, some would
>be amused, I just rolled my eyes when I listened to
>his lengthy (no pun intended) message this morning.
>Here's the part that made me laugh out loud: at the
>end, *he left his phone number* so I could *call him
>back*.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Hey baby, you know what I wanna do to you...?


Author:
Carolyn
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Date Posted: 10:39:20 03/31/03 Mon

For a good time call
228-313-9845

Apparently this gentleman has a big, hard, dick. :)

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[> Subject: Re: Hey baby, you know what I wanna do to you...?


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 08:55:59 04/01/03 Tue

Well, he's unlisted, assuming that's the right number.

Did this guy just say his number, or was it caller ID?

Cause if he just said it, in all likelyhood he's just trying to get back at whoever _really_ has the number, you dig?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Hey baby, you know what I wanna do to you...?


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 13:24:53 04/01/03 Tue

My understanding, after chatting w/ carolyn, is that it matched caller ID #.

>Well, he's unlisted, assuming that's the right number.
>
>Did this guy just say his number, or was it caller ID?
>
>Cause if he just said it, in all likelyhood he's just
>trying to get back at whoever _really_ has the number,
>you dig?

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Subject: You make bathtime lots of fun!


Author:
Carolyn
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Date Posted: 10:46:55 03/31/03 Mon

Dammit Chia! I have been deliberately *not* mentioning that particular toy for MONTHS now because I wanted to surprise Emily with one for a graduation present. :) I was inspired by the rubber ducky themed bathroom. As soon as I saw it (www.goodvibes.com--bookmark it) I thought, "Who can I give this to? AHA!"

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[> Subject: Re: You make bathtime lots of fun!


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 15:39:20 03/31/03 Mon

Now you *have* to get it for her, because she's going to wet her pants when she reads this.

And, just so no further clarifications are needed, my birthday is in October. :)

>Dammit Chia! I have been deliberately *not*
>mentioning that particular toy for MONTHS now because
>I wanted to surprise Emily with one for a graduation
>present. :) I was inspired by the rubber ducky
>themed bathroom. As soon as I saw it
>(www.goodvibes.com--bookmark it) I thought, "Who can I
>give this to? AHA!"

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[> Subject: Re: You make bathtime lots of fun!


Author:
emily
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Date Posted: 21:19:00 03/31/03 Mon

hey. it still makes a great graduation present! my new apartment will also rubber ducky bathroom funtime. :)

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[> Subject: Re: You make bathtime lots of fun!


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 08:38:49 04/01/03 Tue

You girls get all the best toys.

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Subject: Megavirus


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 08:19:26 04/01/03 Tue

God DAMN I hate surfing the web on April 1st. Since most of the stuff I read has a "news of the weird" feel to it most of the time, on april fools day everything goes bonkers.

I actually emailed a friend of mine who's a molecular biologist before posting this. He says it's real.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s818289.htm?

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Subject: Lady or the Tiger?


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 07:22:37 03/23/03 Sun

Ok, so here's a tough one for y'all:

Due to an accident involving a particle accelerator, a themos of soup, and some play doh, you get sent through a wormhole to another universe. Along the way you are given the choice of which universe you wished to go to. You could either:

1) Go to a universe where you would be a member of the Power Rangers, dealing with the cheesy monsters and innane dialogue therein,

or

2) Become a Pokemon trainer, dealing with the cheesy monsters and innane dialogue therein.

"Choose wisely."

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[> Subject: Re: Lady or the Tiger?


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 21:00:09 03/26/03 Wed

I vote for:

>
>2) Become a Pokemon trainer, dealing with the cheesy
>monsters and innane dialogue therein.
>

You know why? Because if you got really really bored and evil, you could find out what happens when you run Skinnerian behavioral psychology experiments on Pikatchu.

But then, I'm a bad person.

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Subject: Just some thoughts I thought I'd share


Author:
Carolyn
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Date Posted: 07:01:57 03/19/03 Wed

Instead of writing quick little replies to several previous posts, I'm just going to lump them all together, along with a few other random things that *I* find interesting. You might also find them interesting. If not, no one's making you read this stuff.

1. After reading Chia's 3/18 post, I am terribly homesick for Chicago. It all just reminded me of what it's like to be there, and how I've never quite gotten around to finding myself a cool old apartment in the city. The thing is, I don't really miss Chicago until I get there. Does that make any sense? I think it does. How else could I know what I was missing? The rest of the time, I enjoy living someplace warm. I'm currently missing Arizona, and considering going West. Every time I see a picture of mountains or red rocks I remember what I'm missing there. It's too bad Chicago doesn't have all the wonderful things it has *and* mountains and red rocks and mild winters. :)

2. The other day I was driving around (in the Bugmobile) and I saw Parallel Universe Sam. I only saw him for a minute, as I drove by, but this dude was like Sam, but not quite. He was short and really really skinny with long shaggy reddish hair, full beard, and walking an Irish wolf hound. The dog was standing taller than the guy's waist, at about armrest height, but didn't look quite full grown. It still had a little of that puppy awkwardness to it's gait. I laughed out loud.

3. I just got some really cool bugs in at the zoo--really friggin' huge beetles. I've got good pictures of one, that arrived stuck in it's shipping container. It's a big stag beetle, and it somehow managed to get about a half inch length of it's mandibles jammed into the airholes of the plastic container. The worst part was, it was holding on tight. It took two of us to pry it off. I also have some rhinoceros beetles that are about as big as a baby's head. We've got a bunch of other cool bugs, like orchid mantids, who we're trying to breed (hopefully we can do this without sacrificing our male), and Malaysian leaf insects, that look more like a little green leaf than anything else that isn't a little green leaf.

4. Note to President Chickenshorts, the world is NUCLEAR, nu-klee-ur, NOT nu-ku-lar. How on Earth am I expected to feel anything but shame when the so-called President of my country is not only leading it straight to Hell, but can't even pronounce the words he uses to tell us about it???

That's all for now. Must go work.

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[> Subject: Re: Just some thoughts I thought I'd share


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 06:01:35 03/21/03 Fri

That's the...fifth alternasam spotting people have reported to me.

...

All is going according to plan. >;)

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Subject: My Most Recent Rant


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 20:25:20 03/17/03 Mon

Dear God,

It is with my deepest regret that I pen this letter, but I feel
that I no longer may remain silent. To put it simply: You're a dick.

You heard me.

How DARE you? How dare you create a universe with such rediculous rules?
Look at these bodies we've been stuck with: fragile, typically ugly, poorly
adapted for our environments, and lacking virtually _all_ control! It's
like being forced to run Windows ME with no docs! Or the way you hooked our
endocrine systems up with virtually nothing in the way of overrides. !
Hell, that's just plain dangerous.

Or the general rules of the place. Christ. Look at how we have to ingest
other organisms just to survive. Disgusting. And tiresome. No
teleportation, psychoplasticisty rating of near nil, and a speed limit of
c. What the hell were you thinking?! Were you on crack or something?!

Look, I understand that your family life is rather complicated, but you
have abrogated the responsibilities you understook when you brought about
consciousness. You have wronged me madam, and I will not stand for it any
longer!

I am sick and tired of living in this shoddy, ramshackle excuse for a
universe. I fear that I will have to cancel my account with your firm
before very long, should such antics continue.

Yes, yes, of course mankind has done a terrible job too. Given the
(*barely*) adequate work you did setting up the system, they still could
have possibly succeeded, but they choose the worst possible path in nearly
every situation. So, yes, the world of man is indeed infinately worse than
the world you created. (And I do have to give you credit, your work is
astonishingly pretty.)

Nevertheless, you created the universe they inhabit and I take GREAT issue
with the persistant and pernicious half-assedness of its quality.

In closing, I urge you to go back to your workspace and come up with a
patch for this universe. Unless you address these issues forthwith, I will
indeed take my business elsewhere.

Samuel Walker
Resisdent of Universe(tm) 1.0
Milky Way, Terra, Genus: Homo, Soul=Yes

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Subject: Fucking Huge Survey Homework


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 20:21:04 03/17/03 Mon

HAVE YOU EVER:
* Been so drunk you blacked out?
Yes

* Put a body part on fire for amusement?
Yes

*Been hurt emotionally?
Yes

* Kept a secret from everyone to this day?
Yes

* Had an imaginary friend?
No, but I did have an imaginary enemy.

* Wanted to go out with a friend?
Yes

* Had a crush on a teacher?
Yes

* Had a New Kids on the Block tape?
No

* Been on stage?
Yes

* Cut your own hair?
No

* Wished you hadn't said something?
Yes

FAVORITES:

* Shampoo
Neutrogena T-Gel

* Soap
That soapy kind, what's it called? Oh yeah, Soap.

* Color
Flourescent Orange

* Day/Night
Night

* Summer/Winter
Winter

* Lace or satin
Satin

* Fave Cartoon Character(s):
Tons. Bender, The Simpsons, Freakazoid, Pinky and the Brain, Samurai Jack, Invader ZIM and crew, Jade and Uncle from Jackie Chan, tons and tons.

* Fave Food:
Garlic and Balsamic marinated Del Monico steaks.

* Fave Movie:
Dunno.

* Fave Ice Cream:
Caramel

* Fave Subject:
The intersections between consciousness, information theory, quantum mechanics, cosmology, theology, drugs, cybernetics, and non-local field theory.

* Fave 'normal' drink:
Dr. Pepper

* Fave Persons to talk to online:
Chia

* Fave smell:
Andy stole my answer. Girl in spring.

RIGHT NOW:

* Wearing:
Nothing. :P

* Hair is:
Loose and around my shoulders

* I'm feeling:
Existentially bankrupt

* Eating:
Nothing

* Drinking:
Water

* Thinking about:
The moral implications of free antimatter

* Listening to:
Ratdog "Ashes and Glass"

* Talking 2:
My dog

THE LAST 24 HRS:

* Cried:
Yes

* Worn a skirt:
No

* Met someone new:
No

* Cleaned your room:
Yes

* Done laundry:
No

DO YOU BELIEVE IN:

* Yourself:
No

* Your friends:
No

* Santa Claus:
No

* Tooth Fairy:
No

* Destiny/Fate:
No

* Angels:
No

* Ghosts:
No

* UFO's:
No

* God:
No

FRIENDS AND LIFE:

* Do you have a boyfriend/girlfriend?
No

* Like anyone?
Not especially, unless you count the cute law student I chat with some times.

* Who have u known the longest of your friends?
Al, probably.

* Who's the shyest:
Me

* Who's the weirdest:
Me

* Who do you go to for advice:
Everyone

* When do you cry the most?:
Whenever there is nothing good on tv to distract me.

* What's the best feeling in the world?:
Velvet.

* Worst Feeling:
Perspective.

* Who sent this 2 u:
Sarah

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Subject: College...or why am I here again?


Author:
Emily
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Date Posted: 20:14:32 03/11/03 Tue

It's March. That horrid armpit of a month smack dab in the middle of everything.

The hellish middle of the semester.
The evil spring winter mixture that makes it impossible to know how to dress.

And it makes me ponder why I am suffering through this horrid mess called college. Why bother? No one can get a job...degree or not.

Bleck.

Dropping out looks better and better.

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[> Subject: Re: College...or why am I here again?


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 21:49:50 03/13/03 Thu

>It's March. That horrid armpit of a month smack dab
>in the middle of everything.
>

Well, SOMEBODY'S got senioritis.

But come on. march is WAY better than february, the redheaded stepchild of months, where everything is cold and grey and horribly, horribly AWFUL. You're still fat from the holidays, spring seems like something that is only in allergy medicine commercials, and if you're from the midwest, there's all. that. fucking. snow.

My advice? Chemically alter yourself in some way--booze is fine--and run screaming down Green Street saying, "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! IN TWENTY TO FIFTY YEARS! I *AM* THE DUCK-BILLED PLATYPUS!"

Then head back to your apartment, and following the sage advice of Weird Al Yankovic, stick your head in a watermelon.

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[> Subject: Re: College...or why am I here again?


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 06:22:31 03/14/03 Fri

Move to New Orleans. March is lovely here. I've kept my windows open for almost two solid weeks now without closing them for anything. It's usually sunny, warm, and not overwhelmingly humid. Yes, the mosquitoes are coming out, but they're not too bad yet. In summer all people will need to stay sticky with DEET at all times to avoid *most* of the mosquitoes--we will still get bitten on any scrap of skin a mosquito can find. But that's not until SUMMER, and summer is at least a month away! Right NOW it's lovely. The flowers are blooming. I can keep my windows open all the time and not need AC. Next month when the termites swarm I'll need to close them up of course, but NOW it's nice here. Flowers are blooming. Horticulture jobs are plentiful at the zoo...

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[> [> Subject: Re: College...or why am I here again?


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 17:48:41 03/16/03 Sun

Reasons I Will Never Live In New Orleans:

"Next month when the termites swarm"

'Nuff said.

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Subject: UMmmmmm


Author:
Emily Pacheco
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Date Posted: 07:27:22 03/14/03 Fri

Heh, hello all. I told Sarah I would post to the forum, and so, well, here I am. :D Sarah has left me here in Oregon to go gather her life from Chicago and transport it back here. I don't know what I ever did without her! All you folks better make the trip out here to see our really cool herb shop, which is quickly gaining much attention here in the community! Lemme see, "Herbalists rule", "Make love not war", and "Damn, there is good seafood in the northwest!" (Actually we have good beer here too), and "the name Emily is a really fabulous name!" Ciao ... -E

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Subject: A thing that is COOL


Author:
Carolyn
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Date Posted: 06:28:01 03/07/03 Fri

Please, everyone say you are near an IMAX theater. If you are not, find one and go there. Last night I got a special sneak preview of the new film, Bugs! (yes, with an exclamation point). IMAX is pretty cool anyhow, but the bug movie is, by far, the best I've seen yet. The cinematography is excellent, the music is excellent, the bugs are SOOOO cool, and this movie is perhaps the best use of 3D that I've seen. The world premier is next Wednesday. Find an IMAX and go see it.

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Subject: Homework


Author:
Andy
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Date Posted: 10:28:28 03/06/03 Thu

HAVE YOU EVER:
* Been so drunk you blacked out?
Yes

* Put a body part on fire for amusement?
No

*Been hurt emotionally?
Yes

* Kept a secret from everyone to this day?
Yes

* Had an imaginary friend?
Yes

* Wanted to go out with a friend?
Yes

* Had a crush on a teacher?
Yes

* Had a New Kids on the Block tape?
Yes

* Been on stage?
Yes

* Cut your own hair?
Yes

* Wished you hadn't said something?
Yes

FAVORITES:

* Shampoo
One that works

* Soap
Dove

* Color
Green

* Day/Night
Night

* Summer/Winter
Winter

* Lace or satin
Both

* Fave Cartoon Character(s):
Dexter, Road Runner

* Fave Food:
Sushi!

* Fave Movie:
Tron

* Fave Ice Cream:
Vanilla Bean

* Fave Subject:
Sex

* Fave 'normal' drink:
Orangina

* Fave Persons to talk to online:
/dev/null

* Fave smell:
Girl

RIGHT NOW:

* Wearing:
Jeans & a T-Shirt

* Hair is:
In a pony tail

* I'm feeling:
Tired

* Eating:
Nothing

* Drinking:
Water

* Thinking about:
Food

* Listening to:
My Printer

* Talking 2:
The little green men

THE LAST 24 HRS:

* Cried:
No

* Worn a skirt:
No

* Met someone new:
No

* Cleaned your room:
No

* Done laundry:
No

DO YOU BELIEVE IN:

* Yourself:
Yes

* Your friends:
Yes

* Santa Claus:
Sort of

* Tooth Fairy:
On another plain

* Destiny/Fate:
Yes

* Angels:
Yes

* Ghosts:
Yes

* UFO's:
Yes

* God:
So long as it doesn't commit me to his ethos

FRIENDS AND LIFE:

* Do you have a boyfriend/girlfriend?
No

* Like anyone?
Yes

* Who have u known the longest of your friends?
My Brother

* Who's the shyest:
Me

* Who's the weirdest:
Kevin

* Who do you go to for advice:
Sarah

* When do you cry the most?:
At night

* What's the best feeling in the world?:
Love

* Worst Feeling:
Emtiness

* Who sent this 2 u:
Sarah

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Subject: Homework Assignment


Author:
sarahhchia
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Date Posted: 04:59:45 03/06/03 Thu

HAVE YOU EVER:
* Been so drunk you blacked out?
Yes

* Put a body part on fire for amusement?
Yes.

*Been hurt emotionally?
Yes.

* Kept a secret from everyone to this day?
Yes.

* Had an imaginary friend?
Not that I recall.

* Wanted to go out with a friend?
Hrm. Yeah, I think so.

* Had a crush on a teacher?
Hrm...Not that I can think of.

* Had a New Kids on the Block tape?
NO, but I did go to a *wince* NKOTB concert....

* Been on stage?
More times than I can count.

* Cut your own hair?
Not really, although I did cut a sizeable chunk out during geometry class Junior year to freak out the girl behind me (it worked.)

* Wished you hadn't said something?
Um, yeah, practically daily.

FAVORITES:

* Shampoo
Most of Aubrey's stuff, especially their Sea Buckthorn and Egg.

* Soap
Sunfeather's "Sweetgrass"

* Color
geez...probably green. Maybe cobalt blue. No, wait, Chinese red....

* Day/Night
Night or dawn. Hate late afternoon and twilight, as the lengthening of shadows has always depressed me.

* Summer/Winter
Summer.

* Lace or satin
Satin.

* Fave Cartoon Character(s):
(y'know? my sister and I chose the same thing...) The dragon from Sleeping Beauty, Stimpy, Underdog, and Mighty Mouse.

* Fave Food:
SUSHI.

* Fave Movie:
UHF, the Blues Brothers, and possibly The Quiet Man.

* Fave Ice Cream:
Something ben and jerryish.

* Fave Subject:
Phytochemistry or biochem, historical linguistics (esp. word borrowing/vocabulary change), and history.

* Fave 'normal' drink:
Chai or raspberry emergen'c

Fave Persons to talk to online:
julia. she's the funniest.

*Fave smell:
sandalwood or certain people.

RIGHT NOW:

* Wearing:
A dirty "weed-eating herbalist" t-shirt, wretched plaid flannel shorts with puffy grey cats on them that I've had since my well-meaning mother sent them to me in college, and wool hunting socks pilfered from my da'. (I'm sexy, I know.)

* Hair is:
Down and lookin' good.

* I'm feeling:
tiredwired.

* Eating:
nuthin.

* Drinking:
see above

* Thinking about:
why I can't fucking sleep.

* Listening to:
the obnoxious hum of computer fans.

* Talking 2:
my bad self.

THE LAST 24 HRS:

* Cried:
no.

* Worn a skirt:
no

* Met someone new:
no

* Cleaned your room:
what room?

* Done laundry:
no; it's festering.

DO YOU BELIEVE IN:

* Yourself:
Are we talking ontologically or spiritually here?

* Your friends:
Likewise. But for the most part, yes.

* Santa Claus:
That bitch owes me twenty bucks.

* Tooth Fairy:
Don't be silly.

* Destiny/Fate:
Well, SOMEBODY fucks with me every now and then, is all I'm sayin'.

* Angels:
The sports team or the religious figure?

* Ghosts:
Oh yes.

* UFO's:
Well. I certainly think that there are unidentified flying objects. What those objects *are*, however....

* God:
Fucked if I know. See "destiny/fate", above.

FRIENDS AND LIFE:

* Do you have a boyfriend/girlfriend?
Pleading the Fifth.

* Like anyone?
Sure. Whole platoons of people.

* Who have u known the longest of your friends?
David Guimond, since seventh grade.

* Who's the shyest:
Probably him.

* Who's the weirdest:
Sam Walker.

* Who do you go to for advice:
Sweeney, and/or whomever is nearest when I freak out.

* When do you cry the most?:
Tough call. Emotional upheaval or head injuries.

* What's the best feeling in the world?:
Plead the Fifth. No, seriously. There are so many...

* Worst Feeling:
I don't want to think about it.

* Who sent this 2 u:
Emily the sister.

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[> Subject: Re: Homework Assignment


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 08:02:40 03/06/03 Thu

HAVE YOU EVER:
* Been so drunk you blacked out?
no...at least not from drinking


* Put a body part on fire for amusement?
no

*Been hurt emotionally?
yeah...duh.

* Kept a secret from everyone to this day?
Yes.

* Had an imaginary friend?
yes, his (?) name was cleo.

* Wanted to go out with a friend?
so many times...

* Had a crush on a teacher?
not that i recall.

* Had a New Kids on the Block tape?
Sigh. I had two.

* Been on stage?
Yes, many times.

* Cut your own hair?
Yes.

* Wished you hadn't said something?
Um, yeah, practically daily.

FAVORITES:

* Shampoo
Anything Aveda 'cause it smells soooo good.


* Soap
I don't really have a favorite soap.

* Color
Right now I'm really liking light green. This is subject to change, however.

* Day/Night
Night.

* Summer/Winter
Summer.

* Lace or satin
Satin.

* Fave Cartoon Character(s):
The Simpsons. Ren and Stimpy are both cool, though I think I favor Ren.


* Fave Food:
Oh, there are so many to choose from... It all depends on what city I'm in. In New Orleans, shrimp, no matter how they're prepared. But food is just so darn yummy, I could hardly choose a favorite.

* Fave Movie:
Too many to choose from. Anything with a truly clever plot.

* Fave Ice Cream:
Ben and Jerry's Rainforest Crunch, though it's been discontinued for years. I've never found anything to top it. I have been consistently please with Baskin Robins mint chocolate chip all my life. It's the flakes of chocolate instead of actual chips that I like.

* Fave Subject:
sex ed

* Fave 'normal' drink:
water

Fave Persons to talk to online:
I don't really talk to people online.

*Fave smell:
grapefruit? I have a hard time picking favorites of things.

RIGHT NOW:

* Wearing:
Khaki on khaki for me. Tan work shirt, khaki pants, tan socks, and tan sneakers.

* Hair is:
Short and multi-colored. Nothing too fun, mind you, but it is several shades of red/yellow/brown.

* I'm feeling:
Neutral.

* Eating:
Just finished a toasted egg bagel with both butter *and* cream cheese. I can feel my arteries clogging, but it's just so good.

* Drinking:
Water

* Thinking about:
How really I should be working right now.

* Listening to:
Loud buzzing ceiling fan in my office, regretting that I forgot to bring in *anything* to listen to while I work. Fuck.

* Talking 2:
No one.

THE LAST 24 HRS:

* Cried:
no.

* Worn a skirt:
no.

* Met someone new:
no.

* Cleaned your room:
My kitchen, but not my bedroom.

* Done laundry:
Yes.

DO YOU BELIEVE IN:

* Yourself:
>Are we talking ontologically or spiritually here?
I'm with Chia on this one.

* Your friends:
>Likewise. But for the most part, yes.

* Santa Claus:
No. I believed in him once, but he let me down. Let this be a lesson: never believe in anyone.

* Tooth Fairy:
Not since my teeth stopped falling out.

* Destiny/Fate:
I dunno.

* Angels:
No, I don't think so.

* Ghosts:
Probably.

* UFO's:
Hmmm

* God:
Depends on what I've taken. :)

FRIENDS AND LIFE:

* Do you have a boyfriend/girlfriend?
yeah

* Like anyone?
Do I like them like them like them or just like them?

* Who have u known the longest of your friends?
Uh...I think Chia, since high school.

* Who's the shyest:
Donald.

* Who's the weirdest:
Sam is definitely weird.

* Who do you go to for advice:
Ginger. She's wicked smart.

* When do you cry the most?:
whenever i damn well feel like it.

* What's the best feeling in the world?:
It depends. Taking a shower on a hot afternoon is nice. Being in bed naked with soft flannel sheets and a down comforter on a cold night is nice. Sitting in a recliner with a baby sleeping on your chest is nice. The first sip of cold water when you're outside on a really hot day is nice--you know when you can feel the water on every inch of your esophagus. :)

* Worst Feeling:
why would I want to think about that??? Don't depress me here.

* Who sent this 2 u:
Chia

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Subject: Mouse bat follicle goose creature: Cool, BUT SCARY


Author:
Malini
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Date Posted: 21:25:47 03/05/03 Wed

Once introduced to the site by Emily, I thought I'd post something. So here is my cool, rather, SCARY, posting:

In terms of the possible upcoming war with/in Iraq, critics are asking why Secretary Powell is not traveling the world to gather support for US military intervention, as his predecessor in the other Bush administration did (Baker? I don't remember his name). Some scholars believe it's because he recognizes that he cannot leave DC if he wishes to influence the President! If true, how scary is that? That our Secretary of State is afraid to leave the country because Rummy and Cheney will intervene while he is gone!?!?

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[> Subject: Re: Mouse bat follicle goose creature: Cool, BUT SCARY


Author:
Malini
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Date Posted: 21:29:26 03/05/03 Wed

Ok, sorry that I turned the conversation towards a political discussion. I'm a news junkie, so this is my obsession. And it doesn't even fit with the subject heading. But whatever, I thought I would share. ;o)

>Once introduced to the site by Emily, I thought I'd
>post something. So here is my cool, rather, SCARY,
>posting:
>
>In terms of the possible upcoming war with/in Iraq,
>critics are asking why Secretary Powell is not
>traveling the world to gather support for US military
>intervention, as his predecessor in the other Bush
>administration did (Baker? I don't remember his
>name). Some scholars believe it's because he
>recognizes that he cannot leave DC if he wishes to
>influence the President! If true, how scary is that?
>That our Secretary of State is afraid to leave the
>country because Rummy and Cheney will intervene while
>he is gone!?!?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Mouse bat follicle goose creature: Cool, BUT SCARY


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 05:02:40 03/06/03 Thu

>Ok, sorry that I turned the conversation towards a
>political discussion. I'm a news junkie, so this is
>my obsession. And it doesn't even fit with the subject
>heading. But whatever, I thought I would share. ;o)
>

DON'T be. That's the whole *point* of this forum. And jesusfuckingchrist it is scary....

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Subject: Mouse bat follicle goose creature


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 22:41:52 03/03/03 Mon

I vote we start a Things Which Are Also Cool thread. So list 'em, folks. Weird things. Not kittens and chocolate and grape jelly sandwiches, which are all nice but kind of, well, chicken soup for the soul-y.

I'll start:

I love the way degaussing your monitor looks, especially if you've neglected to do it for quite some time. It sounds cool, too.

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[> Subject: Re: Mouse bat follicle goose creature


Author:
carolyn
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Date Posted: 06:38:34 03/05/03 Wed

doing *what* to your monitor now?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Mouse bat follicle goose creature


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 11:35:24 03/05/03 Wed

>doing *what* to your monitor now?

degaussing. It's that little button that you press that makes the monitor go *donk* and all rainbowy for a second. It usually looks like a horseshoe magnet with a line thru it. It does something with static charge, I dunno, but it LOOKS fuckin' a.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Mouse bat follicle goose creature


Author:
Emily
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Date Posted: 21:31:26 03/05/03 Wed

cool stuff-
my hedgies.
being naked.
noticing something cool when you are walking around.
not falling down my stairs when they ice over.
amsterdam.
london.
the metro.
art class
my art project
mocking dumb customers behind their back
dodge omnis
my portable cd player..that i have dropped 1,000,000 times on green street that still works.
delivery of food past midnight
good wine
les' lounge
a good road trip
peanuts
flowers
sleep

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Subject: Carolyn is my Hero


Author:
Emily
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Date Posted: 19:07:49 02/28/03 Fri

Carolyn-
You are my hero. Shoes. Mardi Gras. Insects. New Orleans. I have to say some days I wake up in the morning and I want to be you. *Sigh*.

Throw a shoe for me. Have it hit a frat boys head.

:)

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[> Subject: Re: Carolyn is my Hero


Author:
sarahchia
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Date Posted: 22:43:28 03/03/03 Mon

The admin of this forum hereby declares it "Carolyn is Cool" day.

Just think, someday you, too, may be declared Cool on joerandom webforum.

Wouldn't Grandma be proud?

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Subject: Here's to this thingie...


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Sarah
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Date Posted: 19:36:33 02/24/03 Mon

Welcome to the forum! It was all Carolyn's idea!

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Carolyn
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Date Posted: 12:19:00 02/25/03 Tue

The forum is a good thing! This way, I and others like me can respond to the interesting things I read here without the hassle of writing a separate email. You know, I waste valuable seconds almost every day by opening up my email just to respond to something Chia has said on the blog.

The forum is also a good thing because many of Chia's posts are thought/conversation provoking. Why shouldn't everyone benefit from our interesting responses to Chia's posts? Until the fabulous new forum, the only person who got to find out what we thought of Chia's posts was Chia. She's been hogging all of our thoughts up until now.

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sarahchia
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Date Posted: 21:04:55 02/25/03 Tue

God forbid I waste valuable seconds of Carolyn's day.

Honestly, though, this was a good idea, as every now and then I get kind of paranoid that noone actually *reads* my blog and doing it is just some sort of masturbatory intellectual activity.

Then again, I'm not sure that masturbatory intellectual activity is all that horrible.

All the same, welcome to the forum.

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Enik
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Date Posted: 05:27:21 02/26/03 Wed

>Then again, I'm not sure that masturbatory
>intellectual activity is all that horrible.

It is always good to exercise the intellect. I am not sure that the BumperDumper is an exercise of the intellect. If anything that might kill brain cells instead of making them stronger. Now the search to find something like that probably promotes internet searching skills.

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Carolyn
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Date Posted: 06:22:43 02/28/03 Fri

Do you think the truck that transports the Colossal Colon could be outfitted with the Bumper Dumper?

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Subject: Hi I'm a Computer Geek (tm).


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Enik
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Date Posted: 06:13:45 02/25/03 Tue

My Geekness is clear
I clearly like computers
Sex is better still

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