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Date Posted: 12:01:02 09/20/05 Tue
In reply to:
phishhed
's message, "Are you serious???" on 16:42:35 09/02/05 Fri
>Allow the title of my post to remain in your, dear
>readers, mind as you read my reply to the banter on
>this message board.
>
> First of all, we begin with a look into my own
>position. As a lover of the GD, I have seen DSO a
>number of times. Approaching the venue at the Royal
>Oak Music Theater in Michigan I had a light heart
>about what to expect that night I ventured into their
>world for the first time. I was 16 years old, and had
>been a lover of the GD since I was in the 7th grade.
>Not expecting to be that impressed with a "cover band"
>as they were labeled by my friend who introduced me to
>the show that evening, we entered the venue in the
>middle of the Bertha opener. I was amazed at how well
>vocally and instrumentally the band sounded. The rest
>of the show was a great time; I danced, met some cool
>people and had a wonderful experience. It was so
>satisfying to hear songs that dwell in the very fiber
>of my being played live for me to enjoy.
>
> Since that night I have seen DSO a number of times
>whenever they have come to Michigan and have been to
>Gratefulfest twice. (BY THE WAY YOU GUYS SHOULD COME
>UP TO EAST LANSING AND PLAY SOMETIME. MSU WOULD
>WELCOME YOU WITH OPEN ARMS)
>
> I have opened my thoughts with a statement of my
>position on the music to inform you, dear readers, as
>of my stance to the level of my appreciation of DSO.
>I know many people whom LOVE DSO, people that think
>they are the greatest band in the world. I know people
>that hate DSO, people that think what they do is
>phony, unoriginal and lacks creativity. To be honest
>with you both sides of the issue make points that are
>true. I will choose not to venture into examples of
>what I FEEL are the good and bad points, I will only
>say that they do exist.
>
> I make my stance in the middle of the pack. I
>enjoy seeing DSO; I think they are very talented
>musicians (let me also say that besides my love of the
>music, my technical knowledge of music, styles and
>theory in non-existent). I say this to extinguish any
>further debate as to the fact that I said DSO were
>"talented" musicians. All I know is that they sound
>good to me and I enjoy listening to them and the music
>they play.
>
> I begin now the purpose of my post, the prior of
>which has been to educate you, dear readers, of the
>angle from which I write to you.
>
> The music that was created by the GD begot a
>culture. It developed into a way of life. I have
>always felt that it was not the purpose of the music,
>but a byproduct of it. I have always felt that it was
>created by the phans not the music. It was centered
>on the music but held, within itself, a number of
>different purposes. Politics, schools of thought,
>mindsets, beliefs and ideologies thrived in this type
>of environment.
>
> Over the years, at the point that I have been
>introduced to the music, these things have come to be
>the "scene" not just a byproduct of it. I think that
>a culture that was developed on ideals of acceptance,
>caring, love, understanding, freethinking and peace
>has become a complete caricature of itself. I feel
>that everything that was able to thrive in the type of
>environment that was created by the GD has been
>suffocated out by those things themselves.
>
> Acceptance has been given a prerequisite of "as
>long as you are equal to my experience and my
>intelligence level"
>
> Freethinking has been morphed into a collection of
>thoughts and ideals so genre based that the term
>"Freethink" has become a complete oxymoron in its
>description.
>
> I have never been involved and have never been
>drawn to the culture that surrounds this music by any
>of those things. I find myself to be made an outsider
>by my political viewpoints, upbringing, way of
>thinking and overall appearance. The only thing that
>has ever drawn me has been the music. The music that
>is able to speak to me a hold me hostage like nothing
>else on the planet, and I think that so many of the
>other issues that I have spoke of have clouded the
>music as the main purpose of it all.
>
> I think that nowhere has this been made clearer
>than on this message board. The complete lack of
>respect that both sides of the argument have shown to
>each other is unbelievable. As I said before, both
>sides have made great points, however they have been
>completely overshadowed by the lack of control you
>have over yourselves.
>
> To be offended so personally by someone else’s mere
>opinion does nothing but show a level of
>self-righteousness in you. Why is it so hard so
>accept that someone else has a different opinion than
>you? Sitting on this message board picking apart
>trivial points in each other’s arguments to prove that
>your reasons and knowledge and your opinion are
>superior to someone elses is the biggest form of
>mental masturbation that I have ever seen. Also
>though it has not been blatantly stated (or maybe it
>has) it seems that for most people involved the point
>of the discussion is not to further the goal of such
>discussion but to simply prove that "I am smarter than
>you, I know more about this than you, I have seen more
>shows than you, therefore I am right."
>
> All of these things have taken away from the fact
>that this is all about the music and nothing else.
>You either like it or you don't. Just because you
>like it doesn’t mean it is better than another form of
>music, all it means is that you like it better. I
>could sit here and begin to debate with you on how I
>think 50 cent is a more talented artist than Jerry
>Garcia. I could rattle off a ton of facts proving my
>points and you all could rebut them with facts of your
>own.
>
> Case and point: opinions are backed reasons,
>reasons are made up off facts (whether they be
>personal facts or statistical. You will always have
>opinions, reasons and facts on both sides of any
>argument; they can be shaped to prove anything the
>author of them wants.
>
> Let your egos subside and remember the ideals that
>all of this once stood for. I believe that the
>individual components of the culture that I mentioned
>before were no the whole of it. The whole of it was
>obviously what all those things created, TOGETHERNESS.
> Being able to dress, look, live, think, love, speak,
>read, watch, participate in, stand for, hope for, and
>work for whatever and however you want. And to let
>the music bring you together.
>
>"Pride, Envy, Avarice-these are the sparks that have
>set aflame the souls of man..."
>
>-Dante
wow!! You Go! thank you for putting my thoughts into words probably why I don't come here often... Julie
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