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Date Posted: 10:07:59 10/28/05 Fri
Author: ninerva
Subject: Re: Severance
In reply to: Celebaelin 's message, "Severance" on 03:57:22 10/28/05 Fri

Thank you for your response.

...if you accept Angelus as the Anarchistic Nihilist.

I don't think Angelus's attitude comes from anything as well founded as a belief system, I tend to think it is a reaction. It's not that he rejects the existence of passion, nor is he skeptical. It's contempt he feels, coming from envy. He is so acutely aware of others passions that it is this awareness that allows him to act so very effectively when he tortures them with the very thing he lacks. He did it with Spike when he 'took' Drusilla, he did it with Giles when he killed Jenny. That scene he laid out was all about maximising Giles' passion, only to rip his heart out. Even with Dru. When we first see her she is seen instinctively holding her arms out to shepherd her family away from danger, the same family that he murders before turning her. Liam had passion, buckets of it, but mostly negative and aimed at his father. Angelus still has the memory of that misdirected passion, he understands passion, to an extent, he has the memory, but no capacity. It is his self insufficiency that seems to drive him.

Angelus was seeking was closure

Maybe what he needed was closure, maybe what he wanted was acceptance. What he believed though was that it was all about power, his father's power over him, his father's power to make him feel insufficient. He was mistaken of course, he never understood his father's motivation, all he knew was how his father made him feel. He reacted to his feelings, it was an act of passion, his father made him feel powerless, therefore he had to demonstrate who now had the power in the most unsophisticated way. He didn't think about it, it was an emotional reaction. At least that was the way I saw it. All his life it has been his father that inspired those 'feelings', and those feelings that defined his life and how he thought about himself. Once his father was gone, what was left?

Subverting peoples desires and feelings is his favourite tool and that implies an intimate understanding of the process rather than a lack.

I agree entirely, he understands passion, he remembers passion, he just doesn't feel it in himself anymore, or rather he feels only it's absence. If this didn't bother him he would surely be ambivalent to others feelings, except he isn't, he is fascinated by them, inspired by them, but not in a way that he admires them, the envy twists it so he just wants to destroy them instead.

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