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Date Posted: 11:10:09 11/04/05 Fri
Author: Sunshine
Subject: Re: Angel's hero status
In reply to: Rufus 's message, "Re: Angel's hero status" on 03:17:04 11/04/05 Fri

Spike’s arrival definitely did ruffle our hero’s feathers. Spike was challenging Angel’s position as the vampire with a soul, champion, and helper of the helpless. Maybe he did reevaluate his position with respect to Shanshuing. He still claimed he didn’t believe in it but that could have been a ploy to discourage Spike. Unlike in most TV shows, the hero’s don’t always tell the truth and what is worse, they never have that neon flashing sign above their head “I’m lying” when they don’t. Plausible argument (this is the feeble I have my opinion but I recognize the validity of your position part of the discussion).

As for forgiving: When I was a kid I remember being told to accept an apology, and to get it over with I did...til about 15 minutes later
Forgiveness must come from within, it can never be dictated from a third party. I did not mean to imply that the act of forgiving was easy. It is not. It is also not a single act kind of thing, it is a process. You cannot instantaneously forgive someone, you have to work at it. The person who committed the wrong has to indicate a desire for forgiveness and their subsequent acts must demonstrate that they are truly sorry for what they have done. I do want to come across as a sappy “turn the other cheek, regardless” kind of person. There are some things that just can never be forgiven. If I was Tara in season 6, I do not think I could have forgiven Willow for twice deliberately messing with my mind (certainly not as quickly as the seasonal plot demanded). This all probably sounds simplistic; maybe it is but I just don’t see any other alternative. It does no one any good for you to carry around all the slights and injuries that have been committed upon your person. Having said that, I am no better, maybe not even as good, at forgiving as the average person. But I do strive to live up to my beliefs.

I also will not judge Angel too harshly. I love Angel, I would have his babies (okay, I am a male so that is unlikely but then he has participated in one miraculous birth so...). I do not intend to throw stones, merely to broach the consequences part of the action. If I do conclude that Angel fought the wrong battle at the wrong time, well I will forgive him.

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