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Date Posted: Mon, Aug 27, 05:45:35pm CST
Author: houndsound
Author Host/IP: adsl-68-254-36-86.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net / 68.254.36.86
Subject: Re: Placement of white standard
In reply to: Bill Boester 's message, "Re: Placement of white standard" on Mon, Aug 27, 02:30:46pm CST

>>>>>The standard for where white can appear on our dogs
>>>>>will be as follows.
>>>>>
>>>>>White can only appear on the feet, chest,
>underneath
>>>>>the body and neck of ALCBA dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>>The vote was quite clear with 62% voting for this
>>>>>change.
>>>>>
>>>>>Less than 1% of those filling out surveys wanted to
>>>>>have more areas allowable. 27% voted to also
>include
>>>>>the nose and tip of tail.
>>>>
>>>>Correction: the vote for white anywhere or that it
>>>>didn't matter where was 7%, not 1%. That was a typo.
>>>>Randy
>>>
>>>Question # 7 on the "survey" concerning white
>actually
>>>read:
>>>Where should any white be in the % allowed? feet and
>>>chest only___ feet, lower legs, chest and underneath
>>>body___
>>>feet and chest, lower legs, underneath body, neck____
>>>feet and chest, lower legs, underneath body, tip of
>>>tail, end of nose____.
>>>This is what the survey asked. No where on the survey
>>>did it ask if the white could be located just
>anywhere
>>>on the body. This is of great concern with some of
>the
>>>leopard owners. Several leopard spotted dogs have
>some
>>>white spots on the upper part of the body, including
>>>on their backs, and want to register them as long as
>>>they have no more that one third white.
>>>Before this survey was ever mailed out, this issue
>was
>>>already changed on the back of the registration
>papers
>>>without any input from the survey or the
>association.
>>>The association and registration are supposed to
>>>endeavor to work together as per the association
>>>by-laws. As you can clearly see, this is not
>>>happening. Dan N
>>
>>Dan, Your conclusion that that I am not working with
>>the association is an unfair statement. It is a gross
>>exaggeration. I don't think that you are being
>>dishonest, (in fact I believe you are quite honest)
>>but my actions are not and have not been indicative of
>>any lack of cooperation. I have enjoyed talking
>>Leopards with you on the phone and have greatly
>>appreciated your updated membership lists. What I have
>>done to try and follow established rules and work with
>>you does not show an unwillingness to work with you,
>>other members or the association. Quite the contrary.
>>Why would I have wanted to send out a survey at all,
>>if I wanted to ignore the membership? Why would I have
>>emailed or called every time I got pedigree paperwork
>>to do for someone who was not on the paid up
>>membership list? Why would I have held paperwork on
>>several occasions until you let me know someone had
>>paid their dues? Why would I have made over 35 calls
>>to try to prove or disprove the authenticity of a set
>>of papers on a dog that has been dead for several
>>years? Those actions and efforts, which you know I
>>have made or done, certainly do not indicate a lack of
>>working with the association.
>>
>>There is only one issue about which I made an
>>executive decision. That was the placement of white
>>and I did it right off and up front. I didn't try to
>>hide it or whitewash it. I printed it immediately on
>>the back of the pedigrees and numerous people knew I
>>was going to do it before it happened. That is the
>>only issue that you have that has any credence. I did
>>that because I believe wholeheartedly that it is a
>>necessary step not only to help safeguard our breed,
>>but also to change the perception many have of our
>>breed. I seriously believe it is a vitally important
>>thing to do. There are things we all believe in and
>>there some that are "do-or-die". For me this is a
>>"do-or-die" issue. If that is a big enough issue to
>>cause people to quit registering dogs with this
>>office, I am sorry, but that is the way it will be.
>>
>>There is nobody in this association who believes more
>>in the American Leopard Cur or who is more interested
>>in the preservation, improvement and promotion of the
>>breed.
>>Several years before I purchased the registration
>>office I had clearly and candidly told several people
>>the problems I thought were hindering the growth of
>>the association and the popularity of the breed. The
>>"Walker" looking and overly-houndy looking dogs, even
>>though there are very few examples, have caused
>>outsiders to scoff and turn away, in spite of being
>>impressed with the performance of the Leopards they
>>had seen in action. This perception is of paramount
>>importance. The dogs will speak for themselves, but
>>anytime someone looks at a Leopard and thinks Walker,
>>or Redtick, or anything else besides American Leopard
>>Cur it hurts the image of our favorite breed.
>>
>>I am truly sorry that some of you are upset about the
>>placement of white decision. (The Survey actually
>>shows that a big percentage of the membership think it
>>should be even tighter than how I originally set it.)
>>I believe our goals and objectives are very much in
>>line. The fact that some people are upset with me is
>>actually a strong indication of the passion we have
>>for the most unique breed of treedog alive today.
>>Randy
>>
>>I am here to try to better our image and several other
>>things which are all for the betterment of the
>>American leopard Cur.
>You still havent answered Dans statement entirely the
>survey did not ask if the white could be on there
>backs so how do you Know the majority doesnt want it
>there if you didnt put it on the survey maybe you
>should stop side stepping and answer the questions and
>statements as there asked.Are you trying to better the
>Leopard breed as the association wants it or the way
>you want it.Everytime I read your posts I feel like
>you have answered like a pollitician.

If white on the back makes people think walker....then you should start culling all the black and tan leopards also... as they look more like black and tan hounds then murl leopards with white look like walkers.

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