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Date Posted: Sun, Sep 16, 02:48:04am CST
Author: jerry
Author Host/IP: 74-36-80-95.dr01.crvl.il.frontiernet.net / 74.36.80.95
Subject: Re: Can we get back to hunting?
In reply to: kneedeepinbs 's message, "Re: Can we get back to hunting?" on Sun, Sep 16, 01:25:19am CST

>>>>I will say, I do not agree with how things are being
>>>>handled with the association. I am glad we
>>registered
>>>>our dogs UKC too. I appreciate our dog Newt being
>>>>voted in the hall of fame at the meeting last year,
>>>>but he did not get put in the yearbook or recognized
>>>>by the association. That was alittle disappointing.
>>
>>>>Trying to change the certain breed standards now
>>>>doesn't make sense. I thought we were suppose to
>>>>breed for ability- not color. It seems if you are
>>>>looking for white in certain places, you are looking
>>>>for a certain color-not the dogs ability.
>>>>My biggest gripe is I thought the best part of our
>>>>association was to go to hunts and enjoy the
>>>>companionship of fellow hunters. I wish we had more
>>>>hunts for more areas. It would be great to go to a
>>>>hunt, sit around and talk about dogs and meet new
>>>>people.
>>>>This is what I wish we could focus our energy on.
>>>>Susan
>>>
>>>Susan, it sounds as if you are looking for a social
>>>hunting club where comraderie and activities and
>>>social interaction are served up as a main course.
>>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the name of
>the
>>>association is American Leopard Cur Breeder's
>>>Association? If that is the case, then it would
>>>follow that the name of the association suggests that
>>>it is about breeding leopard curs for hunting. So,
>>>that being the case, then it logic would suggest that
>>>there should be a breed standard to measure up to,
>>>something that makes a leopard cur a leopard cur and
>>>not some mix breed. Admittedly, all dog breeds
>>>started by cross breeding something, but then the
>>>breeders started aiming for a look or personality or
>>>whatever standard that was set and I believe that was
>>>established long ago for leopards and there are
>>>established colors as well. From what I have read on
>>>this forum, this association simply wants dogs that
>>>hunt and several of your members that have voiced
>>>their opinions here aren't too concerned with how the
>>>dogs look and they aren't interested in a standard.
>>>Well, if all you want are dogs that hunt, then why
>>>have "leopard cur" in your organization's name at
>all?
>>> Why not call yourselves the American Hunting Cur
>>>Association? My Webster's dictionary says that a cur
>>>is a dog of mixed breed, a mongrel. If you don't
>want
>>>to hold to a breed standard look that distinguishes
>>>Leopards from all the mongrels being bred out there
>to
>>>do nothing more than hunt, maybe you should rename
>>>your outfit to be what the feeling being expressed on
>>>here is. That would kill the dilemma of setting a
>>>standard that sets Leopard's apart from all the mix
>>>breeds you hunt and have fun with. If ever you want
>>>Leopards to become recognized and accepted as a breed
>>>by the best kennel clubs, you will need a standard
>>>look as well as a standard for hunting ability and it
>>>must be consistent. If you are naming your
>>>association after a breed, then you should strive to
>>>promote the breed to the same extent that you want it
>>>to prove itself in the field. Now you might ask
>>>yourselves what do I know about standards and
>breeding
>>>programs? I know, because in the past, we have raised
>>>championship stock that were judged in competition,
>by
>>>a standard, and our breeding program was based on
>that
>>>standard. And we belonged to an association that was
>>>promoting our breed. And it doesn't matter what you
>>>are breeding, be it rabbits, cattle, sheep,
>>>cage-birds, horses, dogs, cats, or whatever, the
>>>standard is what you judge your animals by and it's
>>>your guide to measure your achievement towards the
>>>perfection of your breed. That's how you know you
>>>have a quality product to register and get top dollar
>>>for. I've been following this board for a while now
>>>and as near as I can see, Mr. Oller is trying to do
>>>just what I've been talking about and I for one
>>>commend him for his vision for the breed. The
>>>association would do well to get serious and follow
>>>his lead if they intend to continue to be a "leopard
>>>cur breeder's association". Otherwise, I suggest you
>>>give it up to or move over for those who do want to
>>>perfect the breed. Because when you are striving to
>>>standardize your breed and improve them, you draw
>>>newcomers who bring a new passion and zeal with them
>>>to feed new life and energy into the organization.
>>>Think about it. It's been ice chatting with you.
>>>Thanks for listening! (!)
>>The B.S. in your name says it all. Your opinion would
>>be worth a lot more to me if you post your real name.
>
>The bs in my name are my real initials, so you see my
>real name is on here. And, you are right, it does say
>it all. My opinion would not be worth one iota more
>if I gave you my real name as you don't know me
>anyway. I am a NEWCOMER here. Even if I gave you my
>real name, how would you know it was my real name?
>The board only requires a handle and I have one. I see
>other's on here with handles that don't indicate a
>"real name". And since it is an open forum, unless
>the overseer of this board bans me or kicks me off, I
>have as much right to speak my mind as you do. Is Bill
>Boester your real name? How will you prove it to me?
>Even if other's on here swore that you are you, with
>all you good ol' boys sticking up for each other and
>standing by one another, how could I trust them
>either? I see that there are some sincere individuals
>here and then there are the pot stirrers. I haven't
>been here long enough to be sure who is who. IF I
>stay tuned in here, I am sure I will learn what I need
>to know to hold my own even without your help.

You need to grow a pair. Till then. Have fun.

Jerry

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  • Re: Can we get back to hunting? -- guy, Sun, Sep 16, 08:16:37am CST
  • Re: Can we get back to hunting? -- Tommy Prince, Sun, Sep 16, 11:32:23pm CST
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