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autumn_sylver
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Date Posted: 22:53:01 08/28/03 Thu
In reply to: Wolfstorm 's message, "About this messageboard." on 07:33:14 08/28/03 Thu

I just went to visit your website, and I noticed a link that said "satanic holidays", so out of curiousity, I clicked on it. But, the holidays listed on that page are Pagan holidays, they have nothing to do with satanism. If you're going to claim them as satanic holidays, then don't use the Pagan names for them. It's bad enough that christians think Pagans worship the devil, without you having Pagan holidays listed as satanic holidays. If they see that, they're going to think they were right in thinking that Pagans are all satanists.

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Date Posted: 19:51:16 09/05/03 Fri

First of all I would like to say that I speak for myself and what I believe. What other Satanists believe may be very different from me, or not. I apologize for not responding quicker to your post. Things have been very busy. I decided to ask other satanists their opinion on this. Their answers are below. I also decided to look up a few definitions in the dicitonary, also below. But before you read on I would like to say I respect you words but I also disagree with them, reasons stated below. These may be Pagan holidays but they are not solely pagan holidays. Like stated below we do them differently. I am a Satanist. I personally believe in many gods and that Satan is a god but he's not a Christian creation but an older god. For example Lucifer and Pan have been merged with Satan but they existed long before Christianity. Satan is not a fallen angel, He is in oppostition to the Judeo/Christian god, but so wasn't the godess Diane. I would first like to start out with the definition of Pagan.


WEBSTERS NEW WORLD DICTIONARY:
Pagan- A person who is not a Christian, Muslim or Jew. A heathen.

Heathen- Anyone not a Jew, Christian or Muslim, especially those who worship many gods.


STUDENTS WEBSTER DICTIONARY:
Pagan- Heathen.

Heathen- A person who is not a Christian, Muslim or Jew.

MERRIAM-WEBSTERS COLLEGIATE ENCYCLOPEDIA:
Pagan- A person who is not a follower of Christians, muslims or Jews.

ILLUSTRATED OXFORD DICTIONARY:
Pagan- A person not sunscribing to any of the major religions of the world.




Here are what other Satanists have said.


1-Even though the RHP of Paganism celebrates these holidays, they have a
different format. I always knew them to be Satanic holidays as well, with a
different focus, of course.




2-I would wonder why someone would be telling a Satanist what holidays we
should celebrate or not?

I would say that any Pagan holiday is game for any Satanist. If the
Satanist wants to add to that list more power to them. Given what I
believe is the gnostic core of Satanism, we look awfully silly
ridiculing someone for dressing up their beliefs a little differently.



3-Lughnasad: July 31st, Day of the celebration of being the predator
> not prey.
>

I have always known LHPers to call this Lammas




4-would wonder why someone would be telling a Satanist what holidays we
> should celebrate or not?
>

I agree which is why most Satanist organizations do not make a big deal out
of addressing them - we have had a lot of questions on this - so I was glad
Deidrui did. I would agree that all holidays could be Satanic. I would say
Black
Friday - is probably the most Satanic of all - can anyone guess why?
hehhehehe



If you would like to discuss this further with Satanists and Pagans, both LHP and RHP here is a good website for that.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcos


Also If you would like further definitions please go to my website at wolfstorm.vze.com and click on the msn group on the left and when there I have a link to an online dictionary that searches several different sites.

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wizzpizz
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Date Posted: 01:11:25 04/27/06 Thu

how can there be many gods? that is insane. If gods are like people and are born then there could be many for sure but if god means the source of all things then there is only one nothingness. any being in that did not create it but has emerged out of it. if those beings are what you mean by god then sure there is as many as we can imagine.

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