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Subject: I think this is it Author: Go Green [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 09:39:07 02/25/26 Wed In reply to: observer 's message, "Re: North Dakota State Going Big Time, and It's Expensive- NYU" on 09:17:33 02/25/26 Wed Not sure what kids think today. But I've always thought that NYU competes for students with Boston U, Tufts, Fordham, and other "urban" northeastern colleges not in the Ivy. My gut is that their yield to Columbia is not favorable. If they want to get a national reach, they have to do something different. Getting a more visible athletics program certainly seems like a feasible option. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The Explanation for NYU's Enduring Appeal and Application Flow Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:18:32 02/25/26 Wed This is not exactly scientific research, but every year the college guide "Princeton Review" asks both students and their parents to name their dream college. The answers from the parents are invariably some combination of HYP and Stanford, usually topped by Harvard or Princeton. NYU is nowhere to be found on the parents' list. The answers from the students are invariably some combination of HYP and NYU, often with NYU on top. To me, this dichotomy summarizes the niche that NYU fills in the college rat race landscape. It's the choice of kids who want to get away from Mom, Dad and their vanilla whitebread suburban upbringing because they're cooler than all that. This is just me speaking here, but I couldn't imagine a worse place to go to college. Not Greenwich Village, but a campus full of kids who have fled Wellesley and Weston outside Boston or Darien and Westport in Fairfield County to play urban hipster. That's one of my main complaints about Columbia, too. I don't want to attend college with a bunch of 18-year-old suburban expatriates playing like they're a 25-year-old Carrie Bradshaw. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the downtown experience; it was a big part of my adult social life. But you've got your whole life to live in New York; why start when you can't even legally drink? The two greatest things that ever happened for NYU are -- and I say this with all seriousness -- (1) Rudy Giuliani because, although crime rates have been descending in all major American cities since the 1980's, Giuliani took credit for it in NYC and put a face to the fact that America's biggest city *WAS* getting a lot safer; and (2) the 1990's television hit "Friends," which told every kid in Wellesley and Darien, "You too can come to Greenwich Village and play Rachel Green and Monica Geller." Sidebar: I saw Courteney Cox on Jimmy Fallon last night. Time catches up with all of us and, if you don't handle it with grace and dignity, sometimes it's not pretty.