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Subject: Re: North Dakota State Going Big Time, and It's Expensive- NYU Author: joiseyfan [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 13:49:38 02/25/26 Wed In reply to: observer 's message, "Re: North Dakota State Going Big Time, and It's Expensive- NYU" on 09:17:33 02/25/26 Wed observer — The following are included in the US News top 25 national universities: MIT Chicago Johns Hopkins Carnegie Mellon Caltech Emory WashU (St. Louis) By my count, 14 Big Ten schools are not. Do you have a point? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: North Dakota State Going Big Time, and It's Expensive- NYU Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:38:23 02/25/26 Wed Yes, there is no correlation between small-time sports and superior academics. Big-time sports does not necessarily obviate academic status. NYU is missing a market opportunity that could benefit its students, alumni and many other members of the campus community. WashU, Carnegie Mellon, Hopkins and MIT don't exactly have the same opportunity. St. Louis, Pittsburgh and Baltimore ain't exactly the island of Manhattan.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: NYU could do a two step process in D1 basketball Author: IvySportsJunkie [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:55:01 02/25/26 Wed As noted earlier, NYU could test the waters with a D1 sport, which would give it additional time to further upgrade its athletic facilities. I agree that basketball would be NYU's best opportunity for prime time D1 sports. However, this would require a two step process in basketball. First, NYU would need to play in a lower level D1 eastern conference, such as the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference (MAAC). Then, after NYU achieves success in a conference like the MAAC, it can move up to a higher level conference like the Atlantic 10 or the Big East. It would be highly unlikely for NYU to be invited into a conference that is above the mid-major basketball level straight from D3 athletics. I selected the above three conferences since the majority of schools in these conferences do not have a football program. The top FBS football conferences rarely invite schools without a football program into their conferences. A recent exception is Gonzaga, who was invited to join the recently rebuilt Pac-12 conference in the fall of 2026. Gonzaga has decades of success in March Madness.

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Of course... Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:42:04 02/25/26 Wed Other than MIT (which is in its own league), the other schools don't have an Ivy a few miles away to deal with. And I never understood the recent rise of WashU. It was considered nothing special back in my day. For whatever reason, its popularity has greatly increased in recent years...

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: North Dakota State Going Big Time, and It's Expensive- NYU Author: Ghost [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:54:05 02/25/26 Wed NYU's undergraduate business school checks in at #5, with only Wharton among the Ivies ahead of them. Current acceptance rate among undergrads is 7.7% so I'd say whatever they're doing is working. They have a healthy, vibrant athletics program, with WBB playing to capacity crowds (2,000) and an 86 game winning streak. MBB made the NCAA Tourney last year. I would think the administration is quite pleased with the combination of great athletics, high level academics and a vibrant campus life in Greenwich Village. One of the other aspects in forming the UAA with other like institutions (Emory, WashU, Chicago, Carnegie Mellon) is that undergraduate student-athletes would get to travel to other UAA schools and compete, essentially a campus visit if you're thinking about graduate school.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: So what's NYU going to do to leapfrog Emory, WashU and CMU? Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:13:32 02/26/26 Thu I think leapfrogging U of Chicago is out of reach given that they (like CalTech and MIT) are in a league of their own. But there's no reason why NYU should be lagging behind WashU, Emory, or CMU. To me, NYU is in a similar position as Northwestern. Just as Columbia is always going to be top dog in NYC, so will U of Chicago in the Windy City. Yet Northwestern is widely considered an elite national university (indeed, #7 in USN&WR). As observer notes, Northwestern is doing something that NYU is not--playing in a high-profile athletic league. True, they haven't had tons of success. But they are getting their brand out there. If NYU is truly content to remain where it is, then fine. But if NYU wants to really make a leap to improve their visibility, they should consider doing something similar as Northwestern.