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Subject: Re: Amaker to Me, "You're Wrong and I'll Show You" Author: Ghost [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 15:41:42 06/17/24 Mon In reply to: An Observer 's message, "Re: Amaker to Me, "You're Wrong and I'll Show You"" on 13:06:12 06/17/24 Mon This is the way to recruit, well done Coach Amaker. Convince a decent player that his two years with you, including significant playing time and superior player development/coaching will prepare him for the next level, the A10/Big East, etc. And you'll schedule some of those schools so they get a live look at what could be a recruit for them. Outstanding. Welcome to 2024-25 Ivy League Basketball. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Amaker to Me, "You're Wrong and I'll Show You" Author: Jerrylh [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:32:59 06/18/24 Tue The question is, can he keep them??

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Amaker to Me, "You're Wrong and I'll Show You" Author: Ghost [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:53:01 06/18/24 Tue Why not? It's a 1 or 2 year apprenticeship in the Ivy League, and all your academic credits will be transferable.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Doubt he stays more than a year or two Author: Ole Nassau [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:56:18 06/18/24 Tue Too much NIL money is out there.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Doubt he stays more than a year or two Author: Ghost [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:01:56 06/18/24 Tue True, but I thought we were talking about a marginal player who still needed to mature and develop. Not sure how much NIL $$$ is available for that player.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: He's Got Two Ways to Win Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:37:52 06/18/24 Tue Are you/we talking about Elsie Harrington? I thought he was a four-star recruit, not a marginal prospect. I thought your earlier characterization of what might be Coach Amaker's "new" strategy was insightful. If you are correct, he is essentially trying to implement a second generation of the "One and Done" approach first sold to NBA-bound recruits by John Calipari, "I make no pretense about keeping you for more than a year. We are not starting a relationship; this will be a one-night stand. In return for your giving me what I want, I will surround you with other NBA-level talent, then make a lot of phone calls on your behalf and otherwise sell you to NBA general managers. You get what you want, I get what I want." Your characterization of Coach Amaker's strategy basically takes the same approach but replaces the acronym "NBA" with the acronym "BCS" or Power Four or Top 25 program. This strategy carries its own risks, BUT what I like about is, if the recruit turns out to be slightly worse than the fanfare suggests or he is a bit slower to develop, he will probably still be an all-Ivy level player. Indeed, Coach Amaker has two ways to win: (1) The four-star prospect is as good as advertised or better, tears up the League for one or two years, and then transfers to Georgetown or Michigan. (2) The four-star prospect ends up performing more like a three-star and is "merely" second-team all-Ivy, but sticks around for four years, beating up on Yale and Princeton for a full career. He never makes it to the big time or the NBA, but will go down in the record books as an outstanding Ivy League player.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: He's Got Two Ways to Win Author: Ghost [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:15:50 06/18/24 Tue No, this kid Harrington is legit, at least on paper, I've never seen him play. I was referring to the 2* or even marginal 3* who might need a year or two of seasoning, basketball and physically maturing-wise. THEN, move on to a mid-major level for some NIL $$ and higher level of competition. That would seem to be a better recruiting strategy for Ivy hoop coaches.