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Subject: Re: disappointing upcoming Ivy basketball season Author: Tiger69 [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 11:52:29 06/24/24 Mon In reply to: observer 's message, "Re: disappointing upcoming Ivy basketball season" on 20:00:21 06/23/24 Sun So I’m an ostrich. I’ll stick to our values. As long as the rest of the IL joins us, we’ll do fine by ourselves. Maybe some other schools will eventually become disenchanted with big $ professionalism of college sports and join us. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: We already said "no" to Colgate Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:04:30 06/24/24 Mon https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1973/5/9/ivy-schools-deny-colgate-bid-to/

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: We already said "no" to Colgate Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:32:55 06/24/24 Mon I give credit to Colgate for asking. Can you imagine the effect on Colgate University the academic institution if the Ivies had accepted their request to join our conference? It would have been transformational. Unbelievably, Dr Pepper has passed Pepsi as the second most popular soft drink in the United States. Brand names that we take as fixed somewhere on the food chain do in fact move up and down, sometimes dramatically. Could you imagine a Colgate or a Bucknell or a Johns Hopkins after half a century as an Ivy League university?

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I give them credit, too Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:56:54 06/24/24 Mon You never know unless you ask! I can only imagine how much schools like Lehigh, Bucknell, Holy Cross, Georgetown, etc. would be kicking themselves if the Ivy had said "yes" to Colgate...

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: disappointing upcoming Ivy basketball season Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:49:01 06/24/24 Mon NESCAC here we come.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: disappointing upcoming Ivy basketball season Author: Diogenes (observer) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:37:39 06/25/24 Tue More to your point: "NESCAC here we are". Except for Lacrosse, Hockey, Rowing and Wrestling, the Ivies are now the "shape-shifters" of collegiate athletics.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: disappointing upcoming Ivy basketball season Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:41:52 06/25/24 Tue Even Hockey and Lacrosse only got the AQ this year. And didn't show that well... And Men's Rowing isn't an NCAA sport anyway.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: disappointing upcoming Ivy basketball season Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:54:34 06/25/24 Tue "And Men's Rowing isn't an NCAA sport anyway." So one cannot grouse about rowing being a step behind big-time athletic factories.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: disappointing upcoming Ivy basketball season Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:56:41 06/25/24 Tue It's not like the Ivies dominate women's rowing over the past decade... https://www.ncaa.com/history/rowing/d1

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: disappointing upcoming Ivy basketball season Author: SpuytenDuyvil76 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:12:51 06/25/24 Tue The big state universities have, with women's rowing, done a much better job of recruiting non-US students. It would be interesting to compare the respective football and women's crew budgets at these institutions. Note also with exceptions of U of W, Berkley and Stanford, none of the schools boat varsity men's crew. Kudos to Brown for what they've achieved. Brava to the state schools for giving our Olympic opponents unparalleled 4-year training.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: disappointing upcoming Ivy basketball season Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:30:40 06/25/24 Tue Don't kid yourself. Many Ivy boats are foreign-born.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: disappointing upcoming Ivy basketball season Author: SpuytenDuyvil76 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:12:11 06/26/24 Wed For the men, yes. On the women's side, not to the same proportion.