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Subject: 1945 Ivy Group Agreement Author: Ivy Inquisitor (anachronism) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 22:17:48 05/12/24 Sun In reply to: Ed S. 's message, "The question we always ask: Why no Ivy League postseason football?" on 09:14:37 05/12/24 Sun This started with the 1945 Ivy group agreement that was supposed to be the response to college football spiraling out of control. The eight eastern institutions pledged to ban athletic scholarships, spring football , post season and all star games. Spring football and all star participation has since resumed. In order to remove this sixty eight year self- imposed postseason “death penalty “ all eight institution presidents must agree to ending this illogical regulation that’s based entirely on empty anarchistic rhetoric. A decade ago Yale was the only one wanted to remove the football postseason ban. I don’t know if they still have that same stance. Robin Harris said a bowl game is more likely than playoff participation. The problem is whom will our conference champion play? Over the years the platform I’ve suggested a conditional play off bid for only an undefeated team. In addition, I suggested the Patriot and Ivy Leagues could stage a private school national championship. Similar to the Celebration Bowl crowing the HBCU national champions. I also questioned could an Ivy bowl game feature an at large bid team? Other than Dartmouth all other Ivy teams are in close proximity to a NFL stadium. Making it easier to host a potential bowl game. If that doesn’t work Yale Bowl and Franklin Field are sizable venues. To further prove this illogical stance spring football and all star participation has hasn’t deviated from the Ivy’s core principle - athletics grounded in academia. The past few months there’s been major turnover among the Ivy presidents. Will that be the turning point on football having equal opportunity as the other 31 Ivy athletic programs? What about the 1990’s “Ivy Bowl” all star game held in December? Did that harm academic performance? If that question were to be imposed on the Ivy League presidents you’d hear total silence other than crickets in the background. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: 1945 Ivy Group Agreement Author: Old Lion (Dartmouth 1940) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:20:42 05/13/24 Mon Read the article in the current Atlantic about a Dartmouth family and the decision by Dartmouth, undefeated in 1940, to turn down an invitation to play in the Rose Bowl. Inspiring story about a world that no longer exists.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 1945 Ivy Group Agreement Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:41:53 05/13/24 Mon The 1940 Dartmouth team went 5-4. https://dartmouthsports.com/sports/football/schedule/1940-41

[> [> [> [> Subject: However... Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:02:09 05/13/24 Mon It appears that the 1937 team declined an invite to the Rose Bowl. https://dartmouthsports.com/news/2007/9/25/1248312.aspx I did not know that!

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 1945 Ivy Group Agreement Author: Old Lion (My mistake) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:58:08 05/13/24 Mon It was the 1937 team; article in the Atlantic is still worth a read.

[> [> Subject: Re: 1945 Ivy Group Agreement Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:47:25 05/13/24 Mon Which NFL stadium is near Cornell?

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 1945 Ivy Group Agreement Author: Ivy Inquisitor (Buffalo Bills) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:00:57 05/13/24 Mon Highmark stadium home of the Buffalo Bills is approximately 150 miles from Cornell.This would not be top location for a potential Ivy League bowl game.