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Subject: Is Duke Basketball Nebraska Football? Author: An Observer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 16:02:07 04/17/24 Wed In reply to: Ghost 's message, "Re: Why Enter The Portal? Duke" on 15:35:21 04/17/24 Wed Who is the single most important person in the history of the University of Nebraska? That answer is unambiguous: Tom Osborne. Because of what Osborne achieved inside the confines of Memorial Stadium, today the University of Nebraska is secure, financially and otherwise, as a member of the Big Ten. The Big Ten was interested in Nebraska for its football brand name at the time. What the Big Ten failed to recognize is that Nebraska has none of the natural advantages of the other big anem programs in America. I'm talking about access to the prime recruiting areas of Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania in the "old" Big Ten footprint and of course Texas, Louisiana, Florida and California outside of that. For four decades, Tom Osborne took "nothing" and made national champions out of it. Once Osborne retired, Nebraska reverted to what it would have been all along without Osborne. Nothing. Nebraska isn't even a member of the AAU anymore, the other banner which the Big Ten like to tout that all of its members satisfy. If the Big Ten were to re-constitute itself today, would it invite Nebraska? The Big Ten would be more likely to invite Harvard. The question is, "Is Duke Nebraska?' I believe that Mike Krzyzewski is an outstanding basketball coach. He had more natural advantages in Tobacco Road than Osborne did in the Nebraska cornfields, and he too made the most of them, also culminating in multiple national championships. But once again the world has shifted. Will Duke be able to stay Duke without Krzyzewski? I'm not sure. But certainly part of the answer depends upon what happens to the ACC. Will it continue to exist? Will it look more like the SEC or more like the Big East? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Osborne Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:26:37 04/18/24 Thu He was never busted, but there were allegations that he turned a blind eye to rampant steroid use by his players during NU's heyday. https://www.amazon.com/Big-Red-Confidential-Nebraska-Football/dp/0809245809

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Osborne Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:35:23 04/18/24 Thu I have never heard the allegations of steroid abuse, but it's true that Nebraska was the first major college program to fully embrace strength and conditioning as an art and science. Nebraska's offensive line was huge, strong and quick. Besides Boyd Epley's revolutionary training techniques, were there steroids involved? It's a messy business. Osborne also received some criticism for the light touch he took in disciplining Lawrence Phillips after Phillips demonstrated repeatedly that he had serious issues with impulsivity and anger management, culminating in alleged assault on his Husker volleyball girlfriend. Would a football player of less ability been treated so gingerly? It's a messy business. Of course, elsewhere on this board we are debating how aggressively we Ivies should pursue NIL collectives so that we can keep promising players like Dingle, Mack, Perkins, Wolf and Nana from transferring out. I have no interest in playing that game. Do you know why? It's a messy business. Once you're in that quagmire, you had better be prepared to bring it. And I don't wanna.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Osborne Author: Rufus T [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:17:35 04/18/24 Thu When the Nebraska Cornhuskers were on their tear in the mid-1990s under Osborne, they had players credibly accused of rape, players getting DUIs and assaulting women, and players literally charged with murder. Tom Osborne essentially hid the gun that was allegedly used in the commission of a felony. TOM OSBORNE HID THE GUN. Five words that seem utterly insane when you type them out. As far as steroid usage.....google Dave Rimington and Dan Steinkuhler. Two notorious users who won Outland trophies under Osborne

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: i googled them Author: holtsledge [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:36:51 04/18/24 Thu and this is just a snapshot American Football "In an American report, an ex-dealer described the use of steroids on the Nebraska football team as 'massive' and estimated the number of users around 85%. Additional evidence of this unbridled consumption came from a number of journalistic studies involving players Dean Steinkuhler (1961), Dave Rimington (1960), Danny Noonan (1965), Neil Smith (1966) and Lawrence Pete (1966), something they also later admitted."