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Subject: Re: Cayuga's waters Author: An Observer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 16:19:22 04/27/24 Sat In reply to: joiseyfan 's message, "Cayuga's waters" on 15:39:03 04/27/24 Sat Not to imply that the Tigers weren't fully deserving of the new record but, in crew, do they measure conditions such as prevailing wind? I just got home from a high school baseball game in which there was a consistent 25-30 mph wind blowing in from the outfield straight down the pitcher's throwing motion toward the plate. The umpire was constantly stopping play during gusts. It was a warm beautiful afternoon, but any 5000-meter race would have set a new course record in these conditions. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Cayuga's waters Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:52:55 04/27/24 Sat Crew races are 2000m. This particular row was with a 10-mph tailwind, according to the Cornell coaches. Certainly a valid point, but not 25 mph. No major crew record on earth has ever been set into a prevailing headwind.

[> [> Subject: Re: Cayuga's waters Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:39:08 04/27/24 Sat If I'm reading the box score correctly, the Yale team also broke the existing Cayuga course record -- and came in second. That would speak to the speed of the tail wind.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Cayuga's waters Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:07:02 04/28/24 Sun Yes, I’m certain in the prior 150 years of rowing on Cayuga, there’s never been a 10-mph tailwind.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Cayuga's waters Logic Test Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:47:57 04/28/24 Sun Let me push back a little here. So your contention is that, in a century and a half of racing on Cayuga Lake, the two best boats *EVER* happened to show up on the *SAME DAY* and it had little to do with the wind? Out of the literally more than one thousand boats ever to have left the starting line at Cornell, by coincidence the two best of all time were Princeton and Yale on 27 April 2024? So I presume that you are confident Princeton and Yale will finish one-two at Sprints and then again at IRAs? Methinks the Cornell coaches were lowballing you when they called the tailwind at 10 mph, don't you? More likely than Princeton and Yale winning gold and silver at IRAs. By the way, as long as I'm pushing back, I stand by my earlier statement in this thread. Since a regulation collegiate crew race is 2000 meters, I think a 5000 meter race in a 25 mph tailwind is going to set a record of some sort.

[> [> Subject: Re: Cayuga's waters Author: Tiger81 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:51:16 04/28/24 Sun Course records aside, if my reading of Princeton’s historical results is accurate, this is the first time since 2006 that the Tigers have beaten both Harvard and Yale in the Compton/Carnegie Cup races in the same season. The start of this breakthrough happened last year when Princeton beat Harvard in their cup race and again at the Sprints and IRAs and lost narrowly to Yale at their cup race and the Sprints before edging them at the IRAs and winning bronze behind Cal and Washington. There is a lot of racing left for the #1 heavies with Brown next week on Lake Carnegie, the Eastern Sprints and then the IRAs.