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Subject: Re: Vernon Collins to Western Carolina


Author:
Sr. Punter
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Date Posted: 17:06:35 05/09/24 Thu
In reply to: Bengal 's message, "Vernon Collins to Western Carolina" on 11:55:09 05/09/24 Thu

Collins will have "attended Princeton" on his resume. With the understanding that the Ivies are harder to get into than to stay in, I wonder if the actual degree is all that important.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Vernon Collins to Western Carolina


Author:
observer
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Date Posted: 17:21:40 05/09/24 Thu

Exactly. The getting in is the tough part. Graduating from these places - where they cancel exams because of emotional trauma from watching police enter a window - isn't exactly difficult these days. They don't even expel you for saying you want to kill your classmates because they believe that some countries have a right to exist.

The ground is shifting under your feet, old boys. It's not to late to notice that.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Vernon Collins to Western Carolina


Author:
Old Blue
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Date Posted: 17:21:43 05/09/24 Thu

Gentlemen; The decision to matriculate at another institution after an ancient eight school from the outside looking in can be a real head scratcher.All one can do is wish each athlete the best of luck and hope each student is receiving the best overall advice.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Vernon Collins to Western Carolina


Author:
Tiger69
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Date Posted: 10:16:01 05/10/24 Fri

No point in making conjectures about Vernonโ€™s reason(s). He is still, unless he opts out, a Tiger for life. Who knows? He may take a year or two and decide to come back? From personal experience, I know that Princeton is very supportive of undergrads who withdraw in good standing, and offers encouragement to those who wish to return.

Best wishes to Vernon in finding his own preferred path at a challenging time in life.๐Ÿ…๐Ÿ…๐Ÿ…
[> [> [> [> Subject: "If That Plane Leaves For Asheville and You're On It, You'll Regret It."


Author:
An Observer
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Date Posted: 13:25:02 05/10/24 Fri

Back in the ancient days when people of my age applied to college, Harvard would send admitted applicants a formal certificate, aesthetically appealing and suitable for framing, which stated that the named individual had been admitted to Harvard College.

I guess Harvard had a pretty good idea back then that getting in is the hard part.

I am genuinely sad for Vernon Collins, because I am so confident that someday he will regret his decision. In the immortal words of Rick Blaine, "Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon -- and for the rest of his life."

It didn't have to be this way.

Somebody in his life -- maybe Henderson, maybe his best friends at Princeton, most naturally his parents -- should have stopped him.

That is one thing of many things which I disrespect about the current generation of young Americans. There's a political correctness about life choices that says all decisions are correct, all choices are equally valid.

NO.

All decisions are not equally correct. All choices are not equally valid. And young Mr Collins is going to find that out, probably as early as next winter arrives when he discovers that Western Carolina is not the answer to all of his basketball dreams.

We on this board know that getting into Harvard is tougher than graduating from Harvard. But he doesn't want to explain this to everybody who will be judging him down the road, from graduate schools to employers to the pretty young thing that he's trying to pick up from the bar. "You know, I got into Princeton and went for two years. Do you want to come back to my apartment and see my Princeton notebooks?"

For the rest of his life, just as Ilsa did after she got on that plane with Viktor Laslow, Vernon Collins will have on his resume that he graduated from Western Carolina University, not the #1 ranked university in the country.

Somebody needed to slap him across his face and say, "Hey, you idiot. Here's what you're going to do. You're going to tell Coach Henderson that if you don't have a legitimate shot at getting real minutes, you want to become the team manager for the next two years. You're going to spend two more years in Tigertown, getting your degree and hanging out with your friends. But you'll have saved your athletic eligibility. Then once you've got that sheepskin in your hand, you're going to call Western Carolina or Michigan or Georgetown and you're going to one of them as a grad transfer with a Princeton degree."

This easily available option has less downside and more upside than his choice. Therefore, his choice is the wrong one.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: "If That Plane Leaves For Asheville and You're On It, You'll Regret It."


Author:
Lurker
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Date Posted: 20:46:57 05/10/24 Fri

Look, this is going to come out as an attack and i really dont mean it as such, but between your take that NIL will bring nothing but harm to communities of color and that not earning an ivy degree is a 100% mistake you may just want to take half a step back and consider not everyone shares your views and values

I enjoy reading many of your posts and I guess we are here to express our opinions. But it seems you never consider the world does not bring the same set of history, experiences and assumptions as you do to the issues of the day

My last ivy football fan season is right around the bend. Wish my guy could have scored some of those sweet NIL bucks. But i am looking foward to seeing how the lions do this Fall and shortly thereafter writing my final tuition check. Basketball talk always gives me heartburn anyway
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: "If That Plane Leaves For Asheville and You're On It, You'll Regret It."


Author:
An Observer
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Date Posted: 14:32:25 05/11/24 Sat

As I said earlier in this thread, I agree with your point completely. There are 330 million people in this country and 8 billion of us around the world. That's a lot of personal histories and personal experiences which shape each individual.

Having said that, I do believe in playing the odds. Each player who transfers or drops out or quits the team but becomes team manager for two years may be making the best decision for him or herself. But, out of 100 Vernon Collins's who transfer from the #1 university in this entire country to a school which I had never heard of before this week, 80 of them are making a bad mistake.

I hope that *THIS* Vernon Collins is one of the 20.

Congratulations on being so close to writing your last tuition check. I wish your son and the Lions a healthy and fulfilling season.

Here's a song that I find quite meaningful. I hope it has the same effect on you. Enjoy your last season of Ivy football. All my best as you approach the finale against Cornell, AO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBDN8yWyNYU
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: "If That Plane Leaves For Asheville and You're On It, You'll Regret It."


Author:
Spizz1976
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Date Posted: 14:39:27 05/13/24 Mon

This Vernon Collins transfer to Western Carolina story has been a dominant issue on this Board during the past week. However, I cannot find information on the NET beyond Collins' enlisting on the Transfer Portal anywhere except on this Board!
How do we know, or have reason to believe, that Western Carolina is anywhere in Mr. Collins' thoughts or ambitions?
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: He said so himself.


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 15:03:43 05/13/24 Mon


https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1788448752354922619
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Tweet also has a bible verse


Author:
Terrace72
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Date Posted: 19:36:42 05/13/24 Mon

First Peter 5:10--And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.

So was his time at Princeton his period of suffering?


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