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Subject: Running Up The Score


Author:
An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:03:44 11/13/25 Thu
In reply to: voy vey 's message, "4-way shared title still possible" on 16:00:33 11/12/25 Wed

Since the tie-breaker procedure quickly devolves to using the statistical ranking services, there can never realistically be a tie that survives this step. Direct point differential in Ivy scores will play no role. Having said that. . . .

No doubt the ranking services indirectly reward running up the score, though perhaps with diminishing marginal returns to really piling on.

I would hope that most of the better ranking services would build into their models a diminishing return on point differential, as that is analytically accurate. Beating an opponent by 28 is not four times as meaningful as winning by 7.

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voy vey
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Date Posted: 11:29:39 11/13/25 Thu

ESPN only publishes SOR and FPI for FBS, so for those of us not "on the inside," those two rankings are a black box.

KPI currently has Harvard #3, Dartmouth #5, Yale #7, and Penn #13 in FCS. Some serious Ivy love, there.

Of course, as holtsledge aptly pointed out, most of this discussion is academic, as by far the most-likely outcome is Harvard beats Penn and Yale, removing all doubt about what happens next.
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Author:
John Harvard (Tie-Breaker)
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Date Posted: 12:25:17 11/13/25 Thu

If Harvard beats Penn, there will be no possibility of any tie breaker other than head to head with Yale.
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bulldog10jw
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Date Posted: 12:57:00 11/13/25 Thu

If Harvard beats Penn and Princeton beats Yale all this speculation is moot.
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Author:
John Harvard (Fun!)
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Date Posted: 15:07:43 11/13/25 Thu

In any previous year, the excitement at this point in the season would be on The Game and, for this week, the likelihood that Harvard and Yale would be playing only for whether Yale could join Harvard as co-Champion.

Given the new post-season implications, as a Harvard fan, despite the rivalry and the question of whether Harvard would win the League title outright or not, the spector of a National Tournament, adding to that a possible top seed/bye, a possible home playoff game, and the potential for two bids in the league offers a lot more.


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