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Subject: Thoughts while shaving


Author:
Grin and Bear it
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Date Posted: 11:41:01 11/10/25 Mon

1. Yesterday was a day of upsets in the ancient 8. Dartmouth beat Princeton 1-0 in women's soccer and Princeton beat Harvard 2-1 in field hockey. It was Harvard's first defeat.

2. Both Harvard and Princeton Field Hockey have at least 12 foreign players. I don't know about you, but this kind of diminishes their success in my eyes. Every foreign player takes away an opportunity from an American player. I know, it is jingoism, but in some sports foreign players create advantages that not all the teams have equal access to.

3. Dartmouth women's soccer success is particularly noteworthy because Princeton had been on a long winning streak. In addition, Princeton played Brown almost flawlessly on Thursday. Their coaching is excellent, but so, too, is Dartmouth's.

4. In this morning Brown Daily Herald, coach Perry was bemoaning his team's inability to take advantage of the opportunities they created in losing to Yale 34-22. But what Perry failed to say is that if his team were able to establish a running game, they probably would have had more success. Oh by the way, on Saturday Yale rushed for a net 255 while Brown was only able to garner 19. Gross yards were Yale 266 Brown 71. This has been an old story, and Perry's inability to address it is troubling. Brown has excellent running backs, so why aren't they producing?? Coach, solve the rushing problem and you may not have to be looking for excuses after the game.

5. Brown's men's soccer team concluded its season with a 1-0 loss to Yale. Yale played Brown even up and won on a penalty kick. Coach Wileman admitted that Brown's disappointing season was on him. It is good that he accepted the blame because he is 100% correct. Now the question is, what is he going to do about it.

6. Yale was Brown's best weapon on Saturday. Their numerous penalties kept Brown in the game. If they are that reckless against Harvard, it will be curtains.

7. Here is wishing all of the ivy leagues teams success in the upcoming NCAA tournaments.

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[> Subject: One theory...


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 12:19:24 11/10/25 Mon


Maybe Brown's RBs aren't producing because Brown's line isn't any good.
[> [> Subject: Re: One theory...


Author:
Grin and Bear it
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Date Posted: 15:02:11 11/10/25 Mon

That could be, but then the question arises is it the personnel or is it the coaching. In either case, it is on Perry and no one else.
[> Subject: A Brief History of Foreigners in the Ivy League


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 14:48:12 11/10/25 Mon

I have posted many times about GBI's point (2), that Harvard and Princeton's field hockey teams, the class of the Ivy League, are too loaded with foreign talent -- though Yale also received an NCAA bid (marking the first time that three Ivies have made the field).

Just to review the history here, Princeton of course has dominated Ivy League lacrosse for decades, building a dynasty originally on what I first called, "blonde girls from Pennsylvania."

Harvard, as often is the case, got tired of playing second fiddle to Princeton. But instead of stepping up their own recruiting efforts up and down the mid-Atlantic and New England states, Harvard pressed what I will now term, "the Trinity College nuclear button."

That is, Harvard took a page from the playbook of how Trinity College turned the tables on HYP in men's squash; the Bantams built their roster entirely on foreign players.

American collegiate field hockey coaches are uniformly women. That makes sense in that, in North America, field hockey is almost entirely a girls' sport. But across the world, field hockey is as much a male as a female sport.

So Harvard pressed the Trinity nuclear button and hired a Dutch man, that is, a Dutchman and told him, "Forget about recruiting against Princeton in the suburbs of Philadelphia. We can't win there against the Tigers. Go and recruit Europe."

That he did and the results were immediate. Princeton meanwhile noticed that, during games against the Crimson, a lot of the Harvard women were speaking with funny accents.

Princeton, long accustomed to ruling the Ivies, decided that they would not be Trinity-ed off the topic of the totem pole like their men's squash team had been. So the Tigers decided to give their coaching staff a platinum frequent flyer membership account and told them to spend their summers in Europe. Which they did.

And that's how we got to a whole bunch of girls on the Harvard and Princeton rosters speaking with funny accents. They also spell "color" with a "u" and "theater" with the "er" reversed.

Like GBI, I don't think this is good for America and, frankly, not that good for Harvard and Princeton, either.

As usual, I blame Harvard. Like Tommy Amaker forcing lower academic standards onto Yale and Princeton to stay competitive in men's basketball, Harvard is leading this conference in a race to the bottom.

Shame on the Crimson.
[> Subject: Re: Thoughts while shaving


Author:
Grin and Bear it
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Date Posted: 17:01:41 11/10/25 Mon

As a matter of record, I believe that both Harvard and Yale have 15 foreign players while Princeton has 12. I am not sure about the others but Brown has 6.


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