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Subject: Re: Prediction Author: Oricle (Oh) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 20:49:34 11/05/09 Thu In reply to: Oricle 's message, "Prediction" on 16:25:10 11/05/09 Thu So, the only choice is to drop the sport, rather than compete on a D2 or D3 level? Do you think the NCAA really wants that? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Do you think the NCAA cares about the ivy league? Author: Joke of the week [Edit] Date Posted: 21:43:08 11/05/09 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Prediction Author: D-III [Edit] Date Posted: 23:07:28 11/05/09 Thu How would D-III save money? No scholarships are given currently so that is moot... I guess coaching salaries would be less, but thats about it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Prediction Author: Kevin [Edit] Date Posted: 23:12:18 11/05/09 Thu It would actually lose money. Less revenue from ticket, food, merch sales etc, and pretty much the same on travel expenses- we all play each other, so that mileage would remain intact, and most of us schedule non-conference games in the Northeast anyway. So there is absolutely no reason to even contemplate moving to D-III, other than to be more competitive. Next. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Prediction Author: D-III [Edit] Date Posted: 09:09:14 11/06/09 Fri Exactly, The normal cost saving reason for moving to D-III, scholarship expenses, does not apply to the Ivies so that has no impact whatsoever. Travel will be the same. Insurances, equipment, and other ansulary expenses would be about the same. They coaching staff may be reduced and paid less, but that savings would be minimal. In the case of the Ivies I dont see how moving to D-III would save all that much money. I think the Ivis will be D-I for as long as they play football (or until further sub-division of D-I occurs. They already play in their own little universe so classification is almost secondary. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: NCAA didn't care about former MAC teams Author: Go Green [Edit] Date Posted: 08:54:31 11/06/09 Fri THhe NCAA didn't care that several teams have already discontinued after being forced up to Division I-AA. Iona, St. John's, St. Peter's all were doing fine at the D-III level and probably begged the NCAA to let them back down to D-III because they were getting their asses kicked at I-AA level. There are a lot of other I-AA teams that probably would love to move back down to Division III (including Georgetown) but can't so long as the NCAA's rule is in place. I *can* see the NCAA lightening up a bit if another 10 or 15 teams go kaput. Maybe they allow exceptions upon application if a team has less than a .300 winning percentage over a five-year period. But we're still ways away from that. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: And by the way... Author: Go Green [Edit] Date Posted: 09:02:41 11/06/09 Fri Anyone who wants to know the purpose of the "everything or nothing at Division III," google "Dayton Rule." The NCAA believed that teams that played Division III football, but otherwise had Division I facilities (weight and locker rooms) got too much of an advantage over teams that were Division III across the board. I get it, really I do. But I wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA reverses itself if more of the former D-III teams that have been I-AA bottom feeders find that they are in over their heads... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]