VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 123456[7]8910 ]
Subject: Re: Greatest Upsets Ever


Author:
Old Blue
[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]
Date Posted: 20:52:06 10/05/25 Sun
In reply to: bulldog10jw 's message, "Re: Greatest Upsets Ever" on 20:45:41 10/05/25 Sun

Gentlemen; I totally agree Coach Cozza blunder trying to kick a 42 yard field goal into a cross wind when Mr.Diana had 222 yards running. Old Nassau did convert 3 or 4/4 and 10+ during that final touchdown drive. Actually was one of the best college games in a long time. Except for the final result.

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Replies:
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Greatest Upsets Ever


Author:
An Observer
[ Edit | View ]

Date Posted: 10:33:22 10/06/25 Mon

I agree with Bulldog and OB that going for it on fourth-and-short in that game situation is the right call. Best case, you end the game. Worst case, the opposing offense needs to go a long distance.

Carm's decision touches upon two other recent board topics. Any Ivy League field goal attempt of >30 yards in 1981 was still a bit of an adventure. There was less need to fear a long Princeton field goal attempt (say, >45) than there would be today, off the FieldTurf of either the Bowl or Princeton Stadium.

Secondly, to be fair to Carm (and this is not a defense, just a mitigation), back in 1981, going for it on fourth down was simply still considered bold and dangerous. Today of course, analytics have convinced coaches all the way up to conservatives like Bill Belichick to go for it. That instinct served BB well with Jordan Hudson.

To summarize, there's no question that Carm should have gone for it in the cool waning sun that November day in Palmer Stadium, but it was a different day and time.


[ Contact Forum Admin ]


Forum timezone: GMT-5
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.