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Subject: Shout Out to Dartmouth For Intellectual and Institutional Honesty


Author:
An Observer
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Date Posted: 20:42:22 10/09/25 Thu

Take a quick look at this otherwise boilerplate release from the Dartmouth athletic department. More specifically, read the summary of the Big Green's five conference or national championships, including: (and I quote)

* football's second consecutive shared Ivy League championship
* men's hockey first sole Ivy League championship in 45 years

https://home.dartmouth.edu/news/2025/08/athletics-builds-competitors-striving-excellence-life

Do you know why Dartmouth deserves commendation?

The answer is that, contrary to almost all press releases from Ivy athletic departments, Dartmouth differentiated between outright and shared Ivy titles.

How often do you see an Ivy (1) press release; (2) highlight video; or (3) -- the rarest ever -- championship banner point out that a title was shared? The answer is virtually never. Excepting Dartmouth, that is.

In an eight-team conference (probably tied for the smallest conference in all of college sports), winning a co- or tri-championship is an achievement, but should not be conflated with winning an outright title.

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[> Subject: Pretty sure this is a new thing


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 06:57:18 10/10/25 Fri


My 1990 and 1992 rings say "Ivy League Champions" even though we shared with Cornell and Princeton (respectively).

And I don't think that the banners at Buddy Teevens Stadium differentiate between outright and shared titles.
[> [> Subject: Re: Pretty sure this is a new thing


Author:
An Observer
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Date Posted: 12:53:09 10/10/25 Fri

Obviously, this is only one data point but, given the rarity that co-championships are acknowledged as shared, it's worth noting.

Maybe it's just a "one-off" that is not the tip of a new policy spear.

On the other hand, maybe this is a new policy implemented by "new" Dartmouth Mike Harrity, who has been on the job three years now.

"New" Dartmouth president Sian Leah Beilock strikes me as a real maverick, just the type who would encourage her subordinates to call balls and strikes as they see them.

Maybe this is the athletic analog to Dartmouth graduate Jeff Immelt, who took over as the new CEO of GE in 2001 and, all of sudden, corporate earnings started fluctuating wildly from quarter to quarter after years of smooth compounding. Was GE a more volatile company after 2001? Yes, but really it was that Immelt stopped Jack Welch's decades-long habit of aggressive accounting management/outright fraud.

Sports information departments of course are under tremendous pressure to report mostly good news and to present it in the most flattering manner possible. That's their job.

Any candor in terms of everything not being Lake Wobegon, where every child is above average, is refreshing if only for its rarity.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Pretty sure this is a new thing


Author:
Ghost
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Date Posted: 19:22:04 10/10/25 Fri

All good observations and kudos to Dartmouth. An obvious tiebreaker in football and most other sports is head-to-head competition. Last year, in a summer camp 'everybody gets a trophy' scenario, a three way tie when one team beats the other two, is clearly not a tie. The tie was broken on the field.


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