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Date Posted: 02/28/08 11:25:51am
Author: wayne davis
Subject: Re: Good read on suggested Quota Changes
In reply to: Casey 's message, "Re: Good read on suggested Quota Changes" on 02/27/08 5:55:09am

>Wayne,
> I'm really glad you think that making permits
>NON-TRANSFERABLE in the first phase is going to stop
>the gaming. They are keeping the permit TRANSFERABLE
>in the second and third phase. So the gaming will
>still happen. Only now more people will not be able to
>hunt areas close to home. You will have a chance to
>draw two permits in the first phase but one of them
>will likely have to be in another region. Think about
>it most WMA's (in the same region) have a 3 day
>blackpowder and they are all the same 3 days. What
>good would it do to have 2 permits for the same
>weekend, except to screw another hunter out of a hunt.
>I agree something needs to be done with the system but
>lets fix it instead of making it worse or just as bad.
>Please don't ask me what the fix is because I would
>have to says take away the prefernce points that
>caused an already messed up system to be worse. That's
>right the system was messed up before and the FWC came
>up with perfernce point to make hunter stop whinning,
>then everyone figured out the could play the system by
>putting in for places they new they would get a
>rejection so next year the could get what the want.
>Now it has gotten so out of hand they are trying to
>make a quick fix again. How will they fix it next??

Casey,

I hope I didn't say that having non-transferable permits in the first phase would stop the gaming. I think we both know the only thing that will stop the gaming is going non-transferalbe with all permits.

I also understand most hunters do not want to give up transfeable permits.

I do think that non-transferable permits in the first phase is a good compromise, but from what I have heard and read is most hunters are unwilling to even give up transferable permits in the first phase.

So where does this leave the hunters and FWC that would like to see something done to stop or at least cruve the gaming?

I agree that with transferable permits the preference points also gives the gamers another way to game the system, but it also helps hunters like me that do not game. The turkey permit that I got this year was due to having a preference point.

I really don't know why you would say that they are trying to make a quick fix. The FWC and many hunters have been discussing and looking at ways to fix this problem for many years. The problem is no one can come up with a way to fix the system and keep permits transferable.

The real root of this problem is too many quota areas with low number of permits and short hunts. Until this problem is fix most hunter are going to kept complaining no matter whats done with the quota system.

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