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Subject: Moinul's answer


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Ford
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Date Posted: 14:38:58 04/29/05 Fri

It is not right to be disrespectful towards people. But beliefs are not people. There is a difference between being disrespectful and slandering a person and being truthful and stating the facts.

If you believe people’s belief should be respected, please tell us how do you justify the Prophet bursting into Ka’ba and destroying the idols of the people who believed in them?

Muhammad not only insulted the un-believers and their sacred beliefs, he assaulted them, killed them and forced his version of truth on them.

In my school of thought, beliefs do not deserve any respect. They must be confronted, scrutinized and if found faulty, criticized and rejected. But people must be respected.

I would respect the rights of a Nazi but I would speak openly against his doctrine of hate. I respect the Muslims but I cannot respect their religion that respects nothing, not even human life.

Let me make it clear. I like the variety and believe in unity in diversity. But I will fight against Nazism, KKK, Islam and other doctrines of hate. The reason I fight against them is because if we don’t destroy them, they will destroy everything in their path and they will crush that very variety that you and I cherish so much.

How can anyone justify these hate-laden verses of Quran? They are not even respectful of people’s right to choose and not even respectful of their lives. But I do respect people’s right to choose and their lives.

9:123 Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.

9: 5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them

9: 29 Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute by hand, being inferior

3: 85 Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him; in the next world he shall be among the losers.

5: 11 And as for those who disbelieve and reject Our Signs, they are the people of Hell"

9: 28 O you who believe! Verily, the Mushrikûn (unbeleivers) are Najasun (impure). So let them not come near Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (at Makkah) after this year, …

2: 193 Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah”

22: 19“As for the unbelievers for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowls and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods. “

9: 23 O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love Infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.

25: 52 So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them herewith with a great endeavor.

66: 9O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end.

47: 4 When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives.

3: 28 Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah. except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (to fear) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.

ALSO YOU MENTIONED THAT ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION NO?
This is the biggest lie that Muslims love to tell each other. The truth is that Islam is a religion in fast demise.

People in Islamic countries are poor and uneducated. Poor and uneducated people have higher birth rate. That is why the population is Islamic countries is growing faster than the population is civilized countries where people are educated and birth control is in effect.

In the Western countries also the Muslims are growing faster than other groups because they are escaping from the poverty of their countries of birth and are immigrating to the West in the search of a better life more than any other group. So it is the population of the Muslims that is growing and not Islam.

The number of the people that are embracing Islam is minimal compared to the number of the born Muslims who are leaving Islam. Moreover, those who are enrolling in Islam are often undereducated, lower class people of the American Innercity. They are mostly the blacks who are resentful of the white and who see Islam as a sort of protest against the white man and his religion. On the other hand those who leave Islam are the Intellectuals and the educated class who cannot put up with the nonsense that is written in the Quran. However, those who leave Islam leave it silently. They are often concerned for their own safety. They know too well the criminal nature of Islam and the way it deals with the apostates. Therefore they do not announce their separation from Islam publicly. But those who embrace Islam are announced with trumpets.


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Re: Moinul's answerFord12:34:40 05/09/05 Mon


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