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Date Posted: 03:08:36 04/22/08 Tue
Author: Steve
Subject: Re: Why newspapers should not try to do TV
In reply to: Steve Jobless 's message, "Re: Why newspapers should not try to do TV" on 05:58:19 04/21/08 Mon

So if I have billions of video choices, why am I going to watch the Post-Gazette? Surely at least 10 million of those choices are better.



>I could see your point if this was 1998 instead of
>2008, but you're off the mark.
>
>Even if you have 60, or even 100 or hell... 300
>channels on your television, you still have literally
>billions on the Internet.
>
>This isn't your father's dial-up modem Internet where
>if you had an AOL profile page, you were hot stuff 10
>or 15 years ago.
>
>I'm not saying the numbers outweigh television
>viewership, yet, but more people get their
>information, entertainment, news, etc. from the
>Internet in the form of videos than they did 10 or
>even five years ago.
>
>Why do you think sports leagues or film companies
>crack down on how much of their content gets on
>YouTube? They want that Web traffic diverted to their
>site. That way, the NFL can have people watch Steelers
>highlights with a big Coors ad in the middle of it
>that generates revenue.
>
>Basically my point is that provided it's done well
>(not quite to television standards mind you, but with
>some level of competence), video on the PG's, ESPN's,
>CNN's, etc's site is a valuable tool. It's one thing
>to simply tell a story. It's another thing to show it
>as well.
>
>
>>But what's the point? Newspapers are never going to do
>>TV as well as TV does it. Also who wants to log onto a
>>newspaper's website for amateur TV content when you
>>can click on a TV set and have your choice of 60
>>channels? Unless newspapers develop unique video
>>content, they're always going to be playing a losing
>>game.
>>
>>Anybody remember the P-G's radio network in the early
>>'90s?
>>
>>
>>
>>>I had some doubts about the PG's stuff early on, but
>>>their political videos have been very, very good.
>>>Toland took a beating for that first show, and maybe
>>>I'm alone in this, but I thought his Altmeyer
>>>interview was pretty slick. Even their sports videos
>>>have shown tremendous improvement. The podcasts are
>>>hit and miss, but the fact they're even doing them is
>>>pretty impressive. The PG does seem to be on a fast
>>>track with this stuff.
>>>
>>>>If you can't do video right, BCT can't and the Trib
>>>>can't. The PG has done some dumb things, like the
>>>>"News Now" fiasco and the Early Show with Bill
>Toland
>>>>yet they are way ahead of the pack in this region.
>If
>>>>their ideas have not come together yet, the fact
>that
>>>>they've already got polish, quality and
>>sophistication
>>>>in their presentation puts them in the driver's
>>seat.
>>>>Their stuff is so far beyond anyone else's that it's
>>>>pathetic. It's the concepts that need work.
>>>>
>>>>No one expects much from the Trib and in their video
>>>>efforts no one is getting much just like the
>majority
>>>>of the print and web editorial "product" they offer.
>>>>BCT's site does look like a bunch of kids playing
>>with
>>>>video gear, and why waste time at the very moment
>>>>management's coldly cutting people loose and slicing
>>>>the paper's editorial resources down to zip? If
>BCT
>>>>is going to be run by a skeleton crew why even
>bother
>>>>with the paper itself, much less video?
>>>>
>>>>>People have poked fun at the P-G's video efforts,
>>but
>>>>>their stuff is network quality compared to this
>crap
>>>>>that the Beaver County Times posted on their
>>website.
>>>>>Look at the player interviews, where the players
>>>>>aren't even in frame. Looks like some junior high
>>>kids
>>>>>signed out a video camera and scammed a locker room
>>>>>credential. Why would they even post something this
>>>>>bad? Hey, maybe it's high satire?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>href="http://timesonline.com/articles/2008/04/19/sp
>o
>>r
>>>t
>>>>s
>>>>>/doc4807f67de6f2d673797982.txt">http://timesonline.
>c
>>o
>>>m
>>>>/
>>>>>articles/2008/04/19/sports/doc4807f67de6f2d67379798
>2
>>.
>>>t
>>>>x
>>>>>t


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