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Date Posted: 16:07:37 04/29/08 Tue
Author: The Beave
Subject: Re: More layoffs at BCT?
In reply to: Uncle Junior 's message, "Re: More layoffs at BCT?" on 04:27:49 04/29/08 Tue

I don't work there. Never have. I don't know how to convince you. Maybe we could interrupt Cyril's next trial and Mary Beth Buchanan could bring in a stack of Bibles so I could take an oath? I live in Hopewell and BCT is one of three dailies I have delivered daily and Sunday. I read a lot.

Skirting points? All I've done is expressed my opinion and corrected some reckless factual errors that you made. If you think this has been "abusive," you don't know the meaning of that word.

I suspect the reason you're convinced I have a secret agenda is that you cling one of your own.




>You may not care, but I don't believe you don't work
>at the BCT. Not only do you skirt the points made
>here, but the tone of your responses come awfully
>close to the other abusive posters who wave the flag
>for the paper, or what's left of it. Calkins doesn't
>do this much cutting unless they are in big trouble.
>
>Take a look at the Washington Observer-Reporter and
>tell me they trump the BCT in the category of suburban
>papers. If you're really "in the business" you'll
>see the difference right away.
>
>>This may disappoint you, but I don't work there. I'm
>>in the business and live in their circulation area. I
>>happen to think they do a good job with the resources
>>they have and they're -- by far -- the best of the
>>suburban papers.
>>
>>Toast? The paper makes money. Can't cover anything?
>>Two of their cuts were editors and one was a
>>part-timer in sports.
>>
>>But then you're not really interested in dealing with
>>facts, are you? Not amazing.
>>
>>
>>
>>>What is your greater point? BCT is toast in any case.
>>>You can only cut editorial so far and then you're
>>>unable to cover anything.
>>>
>>>I must say, the defensiveness of folks there
>continues
>>>to be mind-boggling. The product deteriorates,
>>>management cuts jobs and STILL the last few standing
>>>remain ready to rumble.
>>>
>>>Amazing.
>>>
>>>>I was talking about editorial approach, not business
>>>>plan.
>>>>
>>>>BTW, City Paper is not a stand-alone entity. It's
>>part
>>>>of a media company that owns two underperforming
>>radio
>>>>stations:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.steelcitymedia.com/">http://www.ste
>e
>>l
>>>c
>>>>itymedia.com/

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ah, love the oversimplification.
>>>>>
>>>>>How can you compare a mediocre appendage like "Go,"
>>>>>which you say you didn't like, which was attached
>to
>>>a
>>>>>strictly local newspaper owned by a troubled
>company
>>>>>(be it due to TV stations or the Ellwood City
>>Ledger)
>>>>>with a stand-alone entity like City Paper,
>>>distributed
>>>>>REGIONALLY in several counties and not attached to
>a
>>>>>local paper serving an aging, rust-belt community?
>>>>>You can't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Apples and oranges.
>>>>>
>>>>>>BCT actually turns a profit. Calkins has gotten
>>into
>>>>>>trouble overextending itself with things like
>>buying
>>>>>>the Ellwood City Ledger and some TV stations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Go!," which I didn't like, was distributed mainly
>>>in
>>>>>>Pittsburgh and aimed at the college crowd. City
>>>>Paper,
>>>>>>which is similar in philosophy, seems to be doing
>>OK
>>>>>>in "an aging rust belt region." Ah, love the
>>>>>>generalities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's a money-losing piece of crap. Time was, if
>>>you
>>>>>>>said that, some of the loyalists would hop on
>over
>>>>>>>here and fling insult after insult. It's clear
>>now
>>>>>>>that the whole thing it smoke and mirrors, a
>>>>mediocre
>>>>>>>entity with no future, awaiting extinction in a
>>>>>county
>>>>>>>losing population. You don't do a publication
>like
>>>>>>>"Go" in an aging rust belt region.
>>>>>>>The fact they even tried says something about the
>>>>>>>stupidity of the owners and managers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think were Scaife not in the midst of his messy
>>>>>>>divorce, he'd have already had Ralphie and a few
>>>>more
>>>>>>>of his Trib Totally Medicore minions pay the BCT
>>>>>brass
>>>>>>>a visit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Let's see, I'm looking at Saturday's BCT web
>>>>site...
>>>>>>>>four of the six top stories are police or fire.
>>>One
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>the others is a story about the Medical Center's
>>>>>>>>expansion that is two days late... moved
>Thursday
>>>>on
>>>>>>>>the Pittsburgh Business Times web site.
>>>>>>>>Things are bad in the news industry everywhere,
>>no
>>>>>>>>doubt. But if the BCT made half the committment
>>to
>>>>>>>>news it does to sports and cockamamie design
>>>>>schemes,
>>>>>>>>it wouldn't be in such bad shape.

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