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>Sorry folks, the color is just the same. It's hit or >miss as it has always been. Beattie was not the >problem. > >As far as Photoshop controlling the ink density, it >does to a degree, but ultimately it comes down to the >pressman running the ink on the press. > >A standard TIL, or Total Ink Limit, which is set in >Photoshop for web offset presses is between 250 - 270. >The Trib runs a 350 TIL and the color is still light >and inconsistent across the page. Gotta love keyless >inking. > >With that being said, if Photoshop did truly and >completely control the ink output with it being set at >350, you would have over saturation and pages that >would take days to dry. > >If you don't know what you're talking about, don't >speak. > >>I agree! What graybar? The man behind the problem is >>gone, the graybar is gone and now the color looks >>better than it has for a couple of years. >> >>>"Take a look at the graybar at the bottom of the page >>>next time repro is bad. If it is not uniform, you got >>>an early run paper" -when did you work on a press? >>>Graybars are a thing of the past. Photshop dictates >>>inking, plain and simple. Presses nowadays reach peak >>>speed under 300 copies. >>>"No matter what you do in Photoshop, the pressmen >will >>>make it worse." -what an insult to the press pros in >>>our business! No wonder you no longer work with >>>presses (as you alluded)! >>> >>>>I have worked with presses. (Not for Trib.) I can >>tell >>>>you that no matter what you do in Photoshop, the >>>>pressmen will make it worse. Especially during the >>>>initial run. Bad color reproduction is not a good >>>>reason to stop the press, and it takes some time to >>>>adjust and get it right. I can't remember a time it >>>>was spot on at startup. Heck, I can't remember it >>>>being spot on halfway through the run. >>>> >>>>Take a look at the graybar at the bottom of the page >>>>next time repro is bad. If it is not uniform, you >got >>>>an early run paper, and it has nothing to do with >>>>Photoshop. >>>> >>>>>Okay, I am a Trib photographer. What I can tell you >>>is >>>>>that photoshop does dictate how much ink goes on >the >>>>>press. So your apparent speculation is correct! >>>>>

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