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>Wow, you seem to know a lot about this issue! And yet >you imply that it is the pressman who is screwing up >the Trib's color. How misinformed! What was that you >wrote? "If you don't know what you're talking about, >don't speak." How dare you continue to insult the >pressman! > >Your comments read like they came from someone "in the >know" and a very defensive someone at that. The Trib's >Total Inking Limit is only known by a handful of >people. You must be one of those few. And I doubt that >you would be a pressman. That would be my occupation. >So, what does that make you? Oh, a photo tech! Perhaps >a former chief photo tech who recently quit >coincidentally just about the same time that the color >consistently improved? > >My copies of the Trib for the last month or so look >better than ever. Now that may be subjective but, your >Honor, I calls it like I sees it. > >>Sorry folks, the color is just the same. It's hit or >>miss as it has always been. Beattie was not the >>problem. >> >>As far as Photoshop controlling the ink density, it >>does to a degree, but ultimately it comes down to the >>pressman running the ink on the press. >> >>A standard TIL, or Total Ink Limit, which is set in >>Photoshop for web offset presses is between 250 - 270. >>The Trib runs a 350 TIL and the color is still light >>and inconsistent across the page. Gotta love keyless >>inking. >> >>With that being said, if Photoshop did truly and >>completely control the ink output with it being set at >>350, you would have over saturation and pages that >>would take days to dry. >> >>If you don't know what you're talking about, don't >>speak. >> >>>I agree! What graybar? The man behind the problem is >>>gone, the graybar is gone and now the color looks >>>better than it has for a couple of years. >>> >>>>"Take a look at the graybar at the bottom of the >page >>>>next time repro is bad. If it is not uniform, you >got >>>>an early run paper" -when did you work on a press? >>>>Graybars are a thing of the past. Photshop dictates >>>>inking, plain and simple. Presses nowadays reach >peak >>>>speed under 300 copies. >>>>"No matter what you do in Photoshop, the pressmen >>will >>>>make it worse." -what an insult to the press pros in >>>>our business! No wonder you no longer work with >>>>presses (as you alluded)! >>>> >>>>>I have worked with presses. (Not for Trib.) I can >>>tell >>>>>you that no matter what you do in Photoshop, the >>>>>pressmen will make it worse. Especially during the >>>>>initial run. Bad color reproduction is not a good >>>>>reason to stop the press, and it takes some time to >>>>>adjust and get it right. I can't remember a time it >>>>>was spot on at startup. Heck, I can't remember it >>>>>being spot on halfway through the run. >>>>> >>>>>Take a look at the graybar at the bottom of the >page >>>>>next time repro is bad. If it is not uniform, you >>got >>>>>an early run paper, and it has nothing to do with >>>>>Photoshop. >>>>> >>>>>>Okay, I am a Trib photographer. What I can tell >you >>>>is >>>>>>that photoshop does dictate how much ink goes on >>the >>>>>>press. So your apparent speculation is correct! >>>>>>

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