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Date Posted: 15:25:47 08/07/09 Fri
Author: Keep Thinking
Subject: Re: balooey
In reply to: Jay Kay Rollings 's message, "Re: balooey" on 05:30:04 08/07/09 Fri

People do, in fact, still buy the newspaper despite the allegedly poor photo quality.

That help?

Ok, here's another clue: How many people would buy a newspaper with exceptional photographs but type that was blurry or unreadable.

(Exceptional in a journalistic sense, not a Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue sense.)

>I thought about it for several minutes and I think
>comparing unreadable type to poor poto reproduction is
>actually a really excellent point. If you have
>difficulty reading the type it takes away from the
>story just as poor reproduction takes away from the
>readability of the picture.
>In any case, the color does look way better recently.
>
>>Comparing unreadable type to poor photo reproduction
>>sounds like a really excellent point ... until you
>>stop and think about it for a minute.
>>
>>But, yeah, in a perfect world there would be perfect
>>photo reproduction in newspapers.
>>
>>>Photogs have always been on the bottom of the heap.
>>>Right next to secretaries and janitors. -"Hey Jimmy,
>>>while you're out shooting the Mayor at your 9 am,
>stop
>>>over at city hall and pick up Marsha and take her to
>>>her next assignment. She's getting her car fixed. And
>>>on your way back pick me up a pack of smokes. Your
>>>next assignment isn't until 10 am, so you have plenty
>>>of time." So, who gives a crap about how the pictures
>>>reproduce? Just let the type become unreadable and
>see
>>>what happens.
>>>
>>>>What would you do if one of your stories was
>>>>unreadable because the type was so smeary every day.
>>>>You don't have that problem so this issue may not be
>>>>so important to you. Put yourself in the place of us
>>>>photojournalists. Our pictures tell the story and if
>>>>they are of lessor quality than necessary, that
>>>>detracts from their visual impact and therefore the
>>>>entire story. This issue is as important as a poorly
>>>>written or one with screwed up facts. So just
>because
>>>>you are not reading about whether the Trib or the PG
>>>>has the worst reporters, doesn't mean it is not
>>>>important to the photojournalists, digital
>>>>technicians, press operators and readers.
>>>>
>>>>>I swear I would pay money to make this thread go
>>>away.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Wait -- someone actually gets the Trib
>>>>>>home-delivered???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Only dots that connect here are the ones that
>>point
>>>>>>>out your reverse pathetic decoy attempt. Beyond
>>>that
>>>>>>>hoopla, why is it that the color has recently
>>>>>improved
>>>>>>>on my home delivered edition of the Pittsburgh
>>Trib
>>>>>>>after looking like a fogged lens for the past few
>>>>>>>years? Did you guys get a new press?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't need to be an investigative reporter to
>>>>>>figure
>>>>>>>>this out. Your (or should I say you're)
>>defensive
>>>>>>>>tone and all too familiar vocabulary connects
>all
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>dots. And the pathetic decoy about the "person
>>>who
>>>>>>no
>>>>>>>>longer even works at the Trib." That's not
>>>fooling
>>>>>>>>anyone. We all know who you are and we all know
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>no longer work at the Trib. If you loathe the
>>>Trib
>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>much why do you care enough to read this message
>>>>>>>>board, let alone post to it? That is what's
>>>really
>>>>>>>>amusing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"And why everyone else posts under a
>pseudonym?"
>>>>>>>>>Right, everyone but you, Mr. Offset.
>>>>>>>>>Defensive, confusion riddled B.S. is very
>>>>telling!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Wow, I wrote one of the press-related posts
>way
>>>>>>>back,
>>>>>>>>>>then someone else chimed in about the keyless
>>>>>>>>>>inking... I never worked on a keyless press. I
>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>>>>it is amusing, though, that the responders
>>think
>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>the posts defending the color of the Trib were
>>>>>>>>written
>>>>>>>>>>by the same person, a person who no longer
>even
>>>>>>>works
>>>>>>>>>>at the Trib. And it's obvious that few here
>>know
>>>>>>>next
>>>>>>>>>>to nothing about press operations.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I will definitely ramp up the skepticism when
>>it
>>>>>>>>comes
>>>>>>>>>>to looking at this board. I can see why
>>>>legitimate
>>>>>>>>>>journalists shy from posting, and why everyone
>>>>>else
>>>>>>>>>>posts under a pseudonym. Lesson learned.

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