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Date Posted: 12:10:06 08/11/09 Tue
Author: Typical Reader
Subject: Re: balooey
In reply to: Keep Thinking 's message, "Re: balooey" on 15:25:47 08/07/09 Fri

Why would you buy a newspaper if it were unreadable?

>People do, in fact, still buy the newspaper despite
>the allegedly poor photo quality.
>
>That help?
>
>Ok, here's another clue: How many people would buy a
>newspaper with exceptional photographs but type that
>was blurry or unreadable.
>
>(Exceptional in a journalistic sense, not a Sports
>Illustrated swimsuit issue sense.)
>
>>I thought about it for several minutes and I think
>>comparing unreadable type to poor poto reproduction is
>>actually a really excellent point. If you have
>>difficulty reading the type it takes away from the
>>story just as poor reproduction takes away from the
>>readability of the picture.
>>In any case, the color does look way better recently.
>>
>>>Comparing unreadable type to poor photo reproduction
>>>sounds like a really excellent point ... until you
>>>stop and think about it for a minute.
>>>
>>>But, yeah, in a perfect world there would be perfect
>>>photo reproduction in newspapers.
>>>
>>>>Photogs have always been on the bottom of the heap.
>>>>Right next to secretaries and janitors. -"Hey Jimmy,
>>>>while you're out shooting the Mayor at your 9 am,
>>stop
>>>>over at city hall and pick up Marsha and take her to
>>>>her next assignment. She's getting her car fixed.
>And
>>>>on your way back pick me up a pack of smokes. Your
>>>>next assignment isn't until 10 am, so you have
>plenty
>>>>of time." So, who gives a crap about how the
>pictures
>>>>reproduce? Just let the type become unreadable and
>>see
>>>>what happens.
>>>>
>>>>>What would you do if one of your stories was
>>>>>unreadable because the type was so smeary every
>day.
>>>>>You don't have that problem so this issue may not
>be
>>>>>so important to you. Put yourself in the place of
>us
>>>>>photojournalists. Our pictures tell the story and
>if
>>>>>they are of lessor quality than necessary, that
>>>>>detracts from their visual impact and therefore the
>>>>>entire story. This issue is as important as a
>poorly
>>>>>written or one with screwed up facts. So just
>>because
>>>>>you are not reading about whether the Trib or the
>PG
>>>>>has the worst reporters, doesn't mean it is not
>>>>>important to the photojournalists, digital
>>>>>technicians, press operators and readers.
>>>>>
>>>>>>I swear I would pay money to make this thread go
>>>>away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wait -- someone actually gets the Trib
>>>>>>>home-delivered???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Only dots that connect here are the ones that
>>>point
>>>>>>>>out your reverse pathetic decoy attempt. Beyond
>>>>that
>>>>>>>>hoopla, why is it that the color has recently
>>>>>>improved
>>>>>>>>on my home delivered edition of the Pittsburgh
>>>Trib
>>>>>>>>after looking like a fogged lens for the past
>few
>>>>>>>>years? Did you guys get a new press?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I don't need to be an investigative reporter to
>>>>>>>figure
>>>>>>>>>this out. Your (or should I say you're)
>>>defensive
>>>>>>>>>tone and all too familiar vocabulary connects
>>all
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>dots. And the pathetic decoy about the "person
>>>>who
>>>>>>>no
>>>>>>>>>longer even works at the Trib." That's not
>>>>fooling
>>>>>>>>>anyone. We all know who you are and we all
>know
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>no longer work at the Trib. If you loathe the
>>>>Trib
>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>much why do you care enough to read this
>message
>>>>>>>>>board, let alone post to it? That is what's
>>>>really
>>>>>>>>>amusing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"And why everyone else posts under a
>>pseudonym?"
>>>>>>>>>>Right, everyone but you, Mr. Offset.
>>>>>>>>>>Defensive, confusion riddled B.S. is very
>>>>>telling!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Wow, I wrote one of the press-related posts
>>way
>>>>>>>>back,
>>>>>>>>>>>then someone else chimed in about the keyless
>>>>>>>>>>>inking... I never worked on a keyless press.
>I
>>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>>>>>it is amusing, though, that the responders
>>>think
>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>>the posts defending the color of the Trib
>were
>>>>>>>>>written
>>>>>>>>>>>by the same person, a person who no longer
>>even
>>>>>>>>works
>>>>>>>>>>>at the Trib. And it's obvious that few here
>>>know
>>>>>>>>next
>>>>>>>>>>>to nothing about press operations.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I will definitely ramp up the skepticism when
>>>it
>>>>>>>>>comes
>>>>>>>>>>>to looking at this board. I can see why
>>>>>legitimate
>>>>>>>>>>>journalists shy from posting, and why
>everyone
>>>>>>else
>>>>>>>>>>>posts under a pseudonym. Lesson learned.

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