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>Good points, Agree. > >I'd add just a couple things. > >The Trib's good staffers are hurt by the stories, real >and exaggerated, about Scaife's interference in the >news end of things, or editors' craven fear of >upsetting him and therefore skewing news stories to >avoid his wrath. These good folks don't even try to >defend that side of the paper, but what can they do? >It undermines the cred of their great work and that's >a shame. > >PG, too, has some stellar talent. The Blocks' shallow >obsession with "status" is what brought Shribman on >board. He was, and is, totally unqualified to be an >Executive Editor, being nothing more than a glorified, >insular DC pundit. John Robinson Block is no >hail-fellow well met type either. He's an Ivy League >elitist, same as Shribman. They're a good match, but >the PG suffers for it. > >Both papers have gotten sloppier as time passes. > >With that out of the way, let me express my view the >PG arts coverage outguns the Trib many times over. >Some of what you see in the Trib reminds me of a bad >imitation of City Paper, where some of their current >arts staff once held sway. > >>I agree with Middled Out...the intense competition >>between the P-G and the Trib has filtered onto this >>board...it can get ugly and personal. >>But I disagree about that neither is very good. I >>really think each one has their own strengths and >>weaknesses. >>For the Trib, I genuinely believe they kick butt on >>the first-day, breaking news stories...see the >>Pittsburgh police shootings, etc. (though I don't >>think they were at their best for the LA Fitness >>shootings) >>The P-G does a better job, most of the time, on the >>"think" stories a day or two later, the ones that put >>an event in context (such as Dennis Roddey's stories >>about Poplawski and the Web presence after the >>shootings...great research and great stories). And >>they're not "catch up" stories either. They offer true >>meat to an ongoing story. >>Both papers have issues with their leaders..Scaife >>is..well, Scaife. Shribman (hope I spelled that right) >>is too high-brow for this area, and obviously thinks >>himself better than the market he's supposed to be >>serving. >>Has the quality slipped at both? For sure. >>But name me one paper that hasn't...staff cuts have >>decimated just about every paper across the country. >>And it shows. >>Middled, I wish you luck in your search..it's a tough >>market no matter where you go. I think Pittsburgh will >>be a one-paper town in five years. Which one? Don't >>know. But either one would be a loss for the region. >> >>>If they do, it won't be quite like this one. We're >one >>>of the few cities that still has two family-owned >>>papers in hostile competition (though the PG now >>>delivers the Trib by contract, a result of financial >>>realities), where the owners of each paper detest one >>>another. This is reflected in some of the "wild and >>>wooly" animosity you see here between partisans of >>>each paper. >>> >>>Myself, I don't think either one of them are very >>good. >>> >>>I am searching for a j-job in a set of cities that >>>>includes Pittsburgh, which does not seem too >>promising >>>>at the moment, and have found this board to be >>helpful >>>>in getting some inside info on the biz here. Does >>>>anyone know if other cities have similar boards? I >>>>searched voy and 'scoops and gossips' and 'media >>>>forums' and didn't come up with much.I guess that's >>>>why I'm a designer, not an investigative reporter. >>>> This is a helpful site - if a bit wild and woolly!

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