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Date Posted: 19:05:16 03/31/08 Mon
Author: BD Essem
Subject: Re: The Continuing Ineptness of China Millman
In reply to: Meade E. Ocre 's message, "Re: The Continuing Ineptness of China Millman" on 22:00:47 03/28/08 Fri

She is a CRITIC. By the very definition, her articles reflect her personal opinion about the places she reviews; an opinion hopefully well trained and refined. Unlike a movie or even live theatre reviewer, a restaurant/dining critic must comment on the service/food that he/she personally receives.

How would it help her reviews if she said, "One diner had to wait fifteen minutes to receive water and a menu;" rather than, "I had to wait fifteen minutes to receive water and a menu?" If that is really your hang up, then keep beating the drum, but realize how petty that complaint really is in this context.

Again, as others have said, she is a huge improvement over Liz Downer. She understands food and how to convey the quality of a restaurant far, far better than her predecessor. Your (and others) issues are really a matter of style and taste (too personal, etc.), but in terms of giving the flavor of the place she is reviewing, she is a welcome change from Downer.


>Competent journalists don't inject themselves into
>their stories. Inept journalists and critics cannot
>help but do so. Millman most definitely falls into the
>latter category. Her faults ("I" "me") are no less
>profound than Downer's.
>
>
>>Couldn't agree more. I think Millman is a decent
>>writer, a good critic and a 489,000 percent
>>improvement over Liz "I'm from San Francisco, do you
>>know where that is?" Downer.
>>
>>I liked the use of the word "inflection" in that
>>context, think it worked well, but then again, I
>>didn't get straight As on all my 5th grade vocabulary
>>tests. I bet the poster who started this thread had
>>all of his/hers still up on the refrigerator.
>>
>>
>>>wow. you really got her where she lives. that was
>>>incredible. I'll bet management at the PG will read
>>>your
>>>well prepared, passionately argued critique of this
>>>woman's use of the word "inflection" and call her in
>>>to give her the heave ho.
>>>
>>>it's posts like yours that will prevent this board
>>>from ever being a place to discuss the issues facing
>>>pg journalism. as long as people use this board to
>>>launch nastly little attacks against people they
>don't
>>>like (or, as I'll wager in this case, envy) this will
>>>be a place limited to 1. wanna be's, 2. has beens,
>>>and 3. people who are currently gainfully employed
>in
>>>the local industry and check the board only to make
>>>sure someone isn't taking a nasty pot shot at them.
>>>
>>>the only "issue" in your post, i'd argue, is that you
>>>wish you were the pg restaurant critic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08087/868111-24
>2
>>.
>>>s
>>>>tm">http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08087/868111-242.
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>>t
>>>m
>>>>

>>>>
>>>>My favorite sentences:
>>>>
>>>>"On one visit, they were garnished simply with
>>>>Shropshire blue cheese. On another, chorizo and
>>>>Shropshire blue lent the dish a Spanish inflection."
>>>>
>>>>The American Heritage definition of "inflection."
>>>>
>>>>"The act of inflecting or the state of being
>>>inflected.
>>>>Alteration in pitch or tone of the voice.
>>>>
>>>>Grammar
>>>>
>>>>- An alteration of the form of a word by the
>addition
>>>>of an affix, as in English dogs from dog, or by
>>>>changing the form of a base, as in English spoke
>from
>>>>speak, that indicates grammatical features such as
>>>>number, person, mood, or tense.
>>>>An affix indicating such a grammatical feature, as
>>the
>>>>-s in the English third person singular verb form
>>>>speaks.
>>>>The paradigm of a word.
>>>>
>>>>- A pattern of forming paradigms, such as noun
>>>>inflection or verb inflection.
>>>>
>>>>- A turning or bending away from a course or
>position
>>>>of alignment."
>>>>
>>>>So Millman, the great food writer, doesn't even have
>>>>her word usage straight? She can't tell "inflection"
>>>>from "flavor" or "overtone?"
>>>>
>>>>It's bad enough that by the last graf, she thinks
>>>>readers might care to hear about how she effectively
>>>>"outed" herself as a "critic" by showing up at this
>>>>obviously nice bistro on a night when most customers
>>>>are known regulars. I call this "padding."
>>>>
>>>>Another couple of these turkeys and someone's gonna
>>>>start a "bring back Lizzie" movement.

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