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Date Posted: 14:46:16 04/04/08 Fri
Author: Adolfs Original
Subject: Re: Yellow Shame
In reply to: No dog in this hunt 's message, "Re: Yellow Shame" on 08:31:30 04/04/08 Fri

Read it again. I compared the newsroom to the SS only in the sense that like the SS who enabled Hitler because they did not abandon ranks, the newsroom enables Scaife because they do not truly follow journalistic ethics; if they did they would not work at such an ethically corrupt publication as the Trib.
Scaife probably isn't to blame for even one death (unless you count the death of a young journalist's soul) but on the other hand, look at what he tried to insinuate with Bill Clinton and his "trail of death".
You know exactly what I meant. I can't stop your attempt at deflection because once it gets started..... But since I am anonymous, it doesn't matter.
By the way, just what is an "adultorous hipocryte"?


>Wait, wait, wait.
>Did you just compare the newsroom at The Trib to the
>SS? And, by extension, Richard Scaife to Adolf Hitler?
>I know Scaife is a right-wing nutbag of the first
>order, an adultorous hipocryte and an all-around
>bummer of a guy, but as far as I know he did not start
>a war that killed 25 million soldiers and 40 million
>civilians. He did not kill 6 million Jews.
>I know that many in the Trib newsroom could be
>considered sub-par journalists and that quite a few
>might swallow their professional pride in service to
>the little money their bosses throw their way, but as
>far as I know they have not been tasked with the
>extermination of Jews, homosexuals, Catholics,
>Jehovah's Witnesses, fellow journalists, Communists or
>any other person or persons seen as a threat to those
>bosses.
>I know that hyperbole is the name of the game in this
>forum, but some things are just too outrageous to
>ignore.
>Ridiculous.
>
>
>
>>You did a lot of digging in less than one day!
>>I think the comparison to hookers is based on the
>>kiddies enabling Scaife to do his dirty work. Hate to
>>make this comparison but look at the Schutzstaffel and
>>consider what would have happened if they just walked
>>away.
>>No drama, no paranoia, just fact.
>>It ridiculous to be you to take part in this forum
>>while calling your fellow Voy users nutcases. Scaife
>>giving $2.3 million to the American Spectator magazine
>>to dig up dirt on Clinton is nutty. Giving Richard M.
>>Nixon one million dollars is nutty. Giving 23 million
>>to the Heritage Foundation is nutty. The Arkansas
>>Project was nutty
>>
>>
>>>What drama queens you are. You might want to consider
>>>medication for that level of paranoia. Seriously, I
>>>did some digging...no connection between the
>>>transplant story and Scaife's unquenchable thirst for
>>>revenge. Just a good old-fashioned butt whoopin for
>>>the PG.
>>>
>>>Look, I agree the Trib is a miserable place to work
>>>for a lot of reasons and that a lot of the antics
>>>often make it bush league. But comparing staff
>writers
>>>to hookers? That's ridiculous even for you Voy
>>>nutcases.
>>>
>>>
>>>>bs sums up your reply. Yeah, there are some hard
>>>>working, diligent writers at the Trib in spite of
>>>>Scaife. But I bet you my bottom dollar, if you dig
>>far
>>>>enough you will find that even the organ transplant
>>>>story that you gloat over was the result of some
>sort
>>>>of revenge by Scaife. Don't laugh your ass off until
>>>>you do a little research. So no, I do not think that
>>>>the original post is tremendously overstated. If
>>>>anything it is understated. To say the the "shame is
>>>>on the dolt who wrote this" is absurd. What you seem
>>>>to be saying is that there is shame in speaking the
>>>>truth.
>>>>You apparently miss working at the Trib. Maybe there
>>>>is a job opening there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This post is so full of over-the-top bs and gummed
>>up
>>>>>by the bizarre 'wear sunscreen' crap that it almost
>>>>>shouldn't be taken seriously. Almost. After all,
>>it's
>>>>>April Fool's Day.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm a former Trib staff writer and left for greener
>>>>>pastures. In this post and many others, Scaife's
>>>>>bizarre antics (while bizarre) are tremendously
>>>>>overstated and the shame really is on the dolt who
>>>>>wrote this.
>>>>>
>>>>>There was, is and will continue to be good
>>>journalists
>>>>>writing at the Trib (frequently scooping the hell
>>out
>>>>>of the PG). Examples? Did you happen to read their
>>>>>organ transplant coverage? Remind me again what is
>>>the
>>>>>last really great series the PG ran.
>>>>>
>>>>>Scaife ain't the first lunatic with an agenda to
>own
>>>a
>>>>>newspaper, and he won't be the last. So their
>>>>>editorial pages may make them laughingstocks more
>>>than
>>>>>occasionally.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sometimes those antics do have a sad impact on news
>>>>>judgment, but not nearly like has been described
>>>here.
>>>>>Does it influence what story or photos makes it to
>>>>>page 1 sometimes? Yeah. I'm sure that's only
>>happened
>>>>>at the Trib.
>>>>>
>>>>>And what the hell did Dave Copeland and the rest of
>>>us
>>>>>morally upright folks who chose to leave find out
>>>>>about REAL LIFE, that getting a book published and
>>>>>getting a book published that sells are two
>>>strikingly
>>>>>different things?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>This was initially going to be a comment in reply
>>to
>>>>>>the post:
>>>>>>Top Ten Reasons Scaife Loves the Clintons -- D.
>>>>>>Letterman
>>>>>>But after reading the 2 references below, I got so
>>>>>>pissed off that I felt it necessary to write
>>another
>>>>>>post. >>>>>>href="http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s
>_
>>5
>>>5
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>>>>>6
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>>>>>>59659.html

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>>>>>>I worked at the Trib but left in disgust a couple
>>of
>>>>>>years ago, although due to the necessary
>withdrawal
>>>>>>and purging process, it seems like yesterday.
>>>>>>So this is a note to the Tribbers. It is by
>>>>>>coincidence that it reads like 'Wear Sunscreen',
>>>>>>written by Mary Schmich, a columnist for the
>>Chicago
>>>>>>Tribune and wrongly attributed to Kurt Vonnegut.
>>>>>>There is life outside of the Trib. Real LIFE! Ask
>>>>some
>>>>>>of those who have moved on such as Dave Copeland,
>>or
>>>>>>the anonynous fellow who in reaction to this:
>>>>(from)--
>>>>>> >>>>>>href="http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.asp
>x
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>>>o
>>>>i
>>>>>d
>>>>>>=10840">http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.a
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>>>>>>id=10840

>>>>>>"In the final days of the 2000 presidential
>>>campaign,
>>>>>>Pittsburgh Tribune-Review publisher Richard Mellon
>>>>>>Scaife, a longtime conservative activist, ordered
>>>all
>>>>>>photographs and prominent mentions of Democratic
>>>>>>presidential candidate Al Gore removed from the
>>>front
>>>>>>page of the paper. As a result, the paper’s
>>>>>>pre-election Sunday edition had a front page
>>>>featuring
>>>>>>George W. Bush in every campaign-related headline
>>>and
>>>>>>photograph. A story about a Gore rally held in
>>>>>>Pittsburgh, originally slated to run alongside a
>>>Bush
>>>>>>piece on the front page, was moved to the inside
>of
>>>>>>the paper. According to an account in the
>>Pittsburgh
>>>>>>Post-Gazette. Tribune-Review managing editor
>Robert
>>>>>>Fryer ‘tried to dissuade Scaife but was
>>overruled.’"
>>>>>>-Did this:
>>>>>>"One of Scaife's reporters was so pissed he broke
>>it
>>>>>>to the competition. When Gore was campaigning in
>>>>>>Pittsburgh against Bush and the Trib put his photo
>>>on
>>>>>>the front page, Scaife called and reamed them out
>>>and
>>>>>>told them in no uncertain terms that only Bush
>>>>>>pictures were to be on the front page of his
>>>>>>newspaper."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Those, my Trib friends, are real journalists.
>Those
>>>>>>left behind, YOU, are just the same as Tammy Sue
>>>>>>Vasco. She, of Walt's Motel fame.
>>>>>>You are engaged in the same profession as Tammy
>>>Sue.
>>>>>>Make no mistake. Morally and ethically, you do the
>>>>>>same bidding. Scaife's bidding.
>>>>>>Sing.
>>>>>>Accept certain inalienable truths:
>>>>>>Politicians and newspapermen will philander.
>>>>>>You, too, will get old.
>>>>>>And when you do, you'll fantasize that when you
>>>>>>were young, politicians and newspapermen were
>>noble.
>>>>>>And then you will remember. It was you who allowed
>>>>>>this to happen.
>>>>>>Floss.
>>>>>>Don't expect anyone else to support you.
>Especially
>>>>>>Scaife. Stick your finger into the winds blowing
>on
>>>>>>Martindale St.
>>>>>>Holy shit, one day it's Bush, next day it's
>>>Hillary.
>>>>>>Dance.
>>>>>>Don't try to figure it out. With Scaife no real
>>>logic
>>>>>>applies. Only one thing is important and remember
>>>>>>this, it is your integrity that is at stake.
>>>>>>Hillary speaks civilly to Scaife and he is
>>>>immediately
>>>>>>smitten, abandoning years of hated? Or could it be
>>a
>>>>>>simple childish reaction since it has become known
>>>>>>that his ex-wife supports Obama.
>>>>>>Stretch.
>>>>>>You have become Scaife's enablers. I do not wish
>to
>>>>>>call names. My only wish is to have you consider
>>>what
>>>>>>I am trying to say so that you may look outside of
>>>>>>your box and perhaps realize that you have some
>>hard
>>>>>>questioning to do of yourselves. Wake up and save
>>>>>>yourselves.
>>>>>>As others have boldly said before me, it is time
>to
>>>>>>jump ship.
>>>>>>Get plenty of calcium.
>>>>>>Scoff and laugh at me but the truth remains,
>Scaife
>>>>is
>>>>>>a hollow child without real conviction. He is
>>driven
>>>>>>by revenge apparently due to deep seated childhood
>>>>>>trauma because of his cold and sarcastic,
>alcoholic
>>>>>>mother, Sarah.
>>>>>>Or maybe:
>>>>>> >>>>>>href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?
>s
>>h
>>>o
>>>>w
>>>>>t
>>>>>>opic=11403">http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/inde
>x
>>.
>>>p
>>>>h
>>>>>p
>>>>>>?showtopic=11403

>>>>>>Read post 2 on this site. Scary!
>>>>>>Travel.
>>>>>>You are part of Scaife's insane world. Without his
>>>>>>dependable minions, YOU, he would not be able to
>>>>>>function as he does.
>>>>>>You can NOT consider yourselves to be journalists
>>>and
>>>>>>be part of Scaife's lunacy.
>>>>>>Scream all you want and beat the hell out of me
>but
>>>>at
>>>>>>the same time, look into your soul and decide what
>>>>how
>>>>>>you wish others to see and judge you and how you
>>>>judge
>>>>>>yourselves.
>>>>>>Don't mess too much with your hair.
>>>>>>I sickens me to see my ex-fellow journalists at
>the
>>>>>>Trib smoozing and a--kissing anything Scaife comes
>>>up
>>>>>>with.
>>>>>>I was going to mention those that I am
>particularly
>>>>>>sickened with but you know the cast of characters,
>>>>>>from Frank Craig on down to the wanna-be phototech
>>>>who
>>>>>>would sell his soul to gain recognition from
>>Scaife.
>>>>>>Research Scaife's life. Lot's of stuff on the WWW.
>>>>>>Get out while you still have a soul.
>>>>>>But trust me on the sunscreen.

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