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>Not this time. I know Mike Godwin. Mike Godwin is a >friend of mine. You're no Mike Godwin. >Intentional invocation of Godwin's Law is ineffectual. >I win! > >>Congratulations and thanks for playing "Win, Lose or >>Godwin's Law!" >> >>Now, Johnny Gilbert, tell 'em what they won! >> >> >>>Read it again. I compared the newsroom to the SS only >>>in the sense that like the SS who enabled Hitler >>>because they did not abandon ranks, the newsroom >>>enables Scaife because they do not truly follow >>>journalistic ethics; if they did they would not work >>>at such an ethically corrupt publication as the Trib. >>>Scaife probably isn't to blame for even one death >>>(unless you count the death of a young journalist's >>>soul) but on the other hand, look at what he tried to >>>insinuate with Bill Clinton and his "trail of >death". >>>You know exactly what I meant. I can't stop your >>>attempt at deflection because once it gets >>>started..... But since I am anonymous, it doesn't >>>matter. >>>By the way, just what is an "adultorous hipocryte"? >>> >>> >>>>Wait, wait, wait. >>>>Did you just compare the newsroom at The Trib to the >>>>SS? And, by extension, Richard Scaife to Adolf >>Hitler? >>>>I know Scaife is a right-wing nutbag of the first >>>>order, an adultorous hipocryte and an all-around >>>>bummer of a guy, but as far as I know he did not >>start >>>>a war that killed 25 million soldiers and 40 million >>>>civilians. He did not kill 6 million Jews. >>>>I know that many in the Trib newsroom could be >>>>considered sub-par journalists and that quite a few >>>>might swallow their professional pride in service to >>>>the little money their bosses throw their way, but >as >>>>far as I know they have not been tasked with the >>>>extermination of Jews, homosexuals, Catholics, >>>>Jehovah's Witnesses, fellow journalists, Communists >>or >>>>any other person or persons seen as a threat to >those >>>>bosses. >>>>I know that hyperbole is the name of the game in >this >>>>forum, but some things are just too outrageous to >>>>ignore. >>>>Ridiculous. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>You did a lot of digging in less than one day! >>>>>I think the comparison to hookers is based on the >>>>>kiddies enabling Scaife to do his dirty work. Hate >>to >>>>>make this comparison but look at the Schutzstaffel >>>and >>>>>consider what would have happened if they just >>walked >>>>>away. >>>>>No drama, no paranoia, just fact. >>>>>It ridiculous to be you to take part in this forum >>>>>while calling your fellow Voy users nutcases. >Scaife >>>>>giving $2.3 million to the American Spectator >>>magazine >>>>>to dig up dirt on Clinton is nutty. Giving Richard >>M. >>>>>Nixon one million dollars is nutty. Giving 23 >>million >>>>>to the Heritage Foundation is nutty. The Arkansas >>>>>Project was nutty >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>What drama queens you are. You might want to >>>consider >>>>>>medication for that level of paranoia. Seriously, >I >>>>>>did some digging...no connection between the >>>>>>transplant story and Scaife's unquenchable thirst >>>for >>>>>>revenge. Just a good old-fashioned butt whoopin >for >>>>>>the PG. >>>>>> >>>>>>Look, I agree the Trib is a miserable place to >work >>>>>>for a lot of reasons and that a lot of the antics >>>>>>often make it bush league. But comparing staff >>>>writers >>>>>>to hookers? That's ridiculous even for you Voy >>>>>>nutcases. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>bs sums up your reply. Yeah, there are some hard >>>>>>>working, diligent writers at the Trib in spite of >>>>>>>Scaife. But I bet you my bottom dollar, if you >dig >>>>>far >>>>>>>enough you will find that even the organ >>transplant >>>>>>>story that you gloat over was the result of some >>>>sort >>>>>>>of revenge by Scaife. Don't laugh your ass off >>>until >>>>>>>you do a little research. So no, I do not think >>>that >>>>>>>the original post is tremendously overstated. If >>>>>>>anything it is understated. To say the the "shame >>>is >>>>>>>on the dolt who wrote this" is absurd. What you >>>seem >>>>>>>to be saying is that there is shame in speaking >>the >>>>>>>truth. >>>>>>>You apparently miss working at the Trib. Maybe >>>there >>>>>>>is a job opening there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This post is so full of over-the-top bs and >>gummed >>>>>up >>>>>>>>by the bizarre 'wear sunscreen' crap that it >>>almost >>>>>>>>shouldn't be taken seriously. Almost. After all, >>>>>it's >>>>>>>>April Fool's Day. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I'm a former Trib staff writer and left for >>>greener >>>>>>>>pastures. In this post and many others, Scaife's >>>>>>>>bizarre antics (while bizarre) are tremendously >>>>>>>>overstated and the shame really is on the dolt >>who >>>>>>>>wrote this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>There was, is and will continue to be good >>>>>>journalists >>>>>>>>writing at the Trib (frequently scooping the >hell >>>>>out >>>>>>>>of the PG). Examples? Did you happen to read >>their >>>>>>>>organ transplant coverage? Remind me again what >>is >>>>>>the >>>>>>>>last really great series the PG ran. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Scaife ain't the first lunatic with an agenda to >>>>own >>>>>>a >>>>>>>>newspaper, and he won't be the last. So their >>>>>>>>editorial pages may make them laughingstocks >more >>>>>>than >>>>>>>>occasionally. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sometimes those antics do have a sad impact on >>>news >>>>>>>>judgment, but not nearly like has been described >>>>>>here. >>>>>>>>Does it influence what story or photos makes it >>to >>>>>>>>page 1 sometimes? Yeah. I'm sure that's only >>>>>happened >>>>>>>>at the Trib. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>And what the hell did Dave Copeland and the rest >>>of >>>>>>us >>>>>>>>morally upright folks who chose to leave find >out >>>>>>>>about REAL LIFE, that getting a book published >>and >>>>>>>>getting a book published that sells are two >>>>>>strikingly >>>>>>>>different things? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>This was initially going to be a comment in >>reply >>>>>to >>>>>>>>>the post: >>>>>>>>>Top Ten Reasons Scaife Loves the Clintons -- D. >>>>>>>>>Letterman >>>>>>>>>But after reading the 2 references below, I got >>>so >>>>>>>>>pissed off that I felt it necessary to write >>>>>another >>>>>>>>>post. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank >>>>>>>>>href="http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtri >b >>/ >>>s >>>>_ >>>>>5 >>>>>>5 >>>>>>>9 >>>>>>>>6 >>>>>>>>>59.html">http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburgh >t >>r >>>i >>>>b >>>>>/ >>>>>>s >>>>>>>_ >>>>>>>>5 >>>>>>>>>59659.html</a> >>>>>>>>><a rel=nofollow target=_blank >>>>>>>>>href="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburg >h >>t >>>r >>>>i >>>>>b >>>>>>/ >>>>>>>o >>>>>>>>p >>>>>>>>>inion/columnists/whispers/s_559713.html">http:/ >/ >>w >>>w >>>>w >>>>>. >>>>>>p >>>>>>>i >>>>>>>>t >>>>>>>>>tsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/column >i >>s >>>t >>>>s >>>>>/ >>>>>>w >>>>>>>h >>>>>>>>i >>>>>>>>>spers/s_559713.html</a> >>>>>>>>>I worked at the Trib but left in disgust a >>couple >>>>>of >>>>>>>>>years ago, although due to the necessary >>>>withdrawal >>>>>>>>>and purging process, it seems like yesterday. >>>>>>>>>So this is a note to the Tribbers. It is by >>>>>>>>>coincidence that it reads like 'Wear >>Sunscreen', >>>>>>>>>written by Mary Schmich, a columnist for the >>>>>Chicago >>>>>>>>>Tribune and wrongly attributed to Kurt >Vonnegut. >>>>>>>>>There is life outside of the Trib. Real LIFE! >>Ask >>>>>>>some >>>>>>>>>of those who have moved on such as Dave >>Copeland, >>>>>or >>>>>>>>>the anonynous fellow who in reaction to this: >>>>>>>(from)-- >>>>>>>>><a rel=nofollow target=_blank >>>>>>>>>href="http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default. >a >>s >>>p >>>>x >>>>>? >>>>>>o >>>>>>>i >>>>>>>>d >>>>>>>>>=10840">http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/defaul >t >>. >>>a >>>>s >>>>>p >>>>>>x >>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>o >>>>>>>>>id=10840</a> >>>>>>>>>"In the final days of the 2000 presidential >>>>>>campaign, >>>>>>>>>Pittsburgh Tribune-Review publisher Richard >>>Mellon >>>>>>>>>Scaife, a longtime conservative activist, >>ordered >>>>>>all >>>>>>>>>photographs and prominent mentions of >Democratic >>>>>>>>>presidential candidate Al Gore removed from the >>>>>>front >>>>>>>>>page of the paper. As a result, the paper’s >>>>>>>>>pre-election Sunday edition had a front page >>>>>>>featuring >>>>>>>>>George W. Bush in every campaign-related >>headline >>>>>>and >>>>>>>>>photograph. A story about a Gore rally held in >>>>>>>>>Pittsburgh, originally slated to run alongside >a >>>>>>Bush >>>>>>>>>piece on the front page, was moved to the >inside >>>>of >>>>>>>>>the paper. According to an account in the >>>>>Pittsburgh >>>>>>>>>Post-Gazette. Tribune-Review managing editor >>>>Robert >>>>>>>>>Fryer ‘tried to dissuade Scaife but was >>>>>overruled.’" >>>>>>>>>-Did this: >>>>>>>>>"One of Scaife's reporters was so pissed he >>broke >>>>>it >>>>>>>>>to the competition. When Gore was campaigning >in >>>>>>>>>Pittsburgh against Bush and the Trib put his >>>photo >>>>>>on >>>>>>>>>the front page, Scaife called and reamed them >>out >>>>>>and >>>>>>>>>told them in no uncertain terms that only Bush >>>>>>>>>pictures were to be on the front page of his >>>>>>>>>newspaper." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Those, my Trib friends, are real journalists. >>>>Those >>>>>>>>>left behind, YOU, are just the same as Tammy >Sue >>>>>>>>>Vasco. She, of Walt's Motel fame. >>>>>>>>>You are engaged in the same profession as Tammy >>>>>>Sue. >>>>>>>>>Make no mistake. Morally and ethically, you do >>>the >>>>>>>>>same bidding. Scaife's bidding. >>>>>>>>>Sing. >>>>>>>>>Accept certain inalienable truths: >>>>>>>>>Politicians and newspapermen will philander. >>>>>>>>>You, too, will get old. >>>>>>>>>And when you do, you'll fantasize that when you >>>>>>>>>were young, politicians and newspapermen were >>>>>noble. >>>>>>>>>And then you will remember. It was you who >>>allowed >>>>>>>>>this to happen. >>>>>>>>>Floss. >>>>>>>>>Don't expect anyone else to support you. >>>>Especially >>>>>>>>>Scaife. Stick your finger into the winds >blowing >>>>on >>>>>>>>>Martindale St. >>>>>>>>>Holy shit, one day it's Bush, next day it's >>>>>>Hillary. >>>>>>>>>Dance. >>>>>>>>>Don't try to figure it out. With Scaife no real >>>>>>logic >>>>>>>>>applies. Only one thing is important and >>remember >>>>>>>>>this, it is your integrity that is at stake. >>>>>>>>>Hillary speaks civilly to Scaife and he is >>>>>>>immediately >>>>>>>>>smitten, abandoning years of hated? Or could it >>>be >>>>>a >>>>>>>>>simple childish reaction since it has become >>>known >>>>>>>>>that his ex-wife supports Obama. >>>>>>>>>Stretch. >>>>>>>>>You have become Scaife's enablers. I do not >wish >>>>to >>>>>>>>>call names. My only wish is to have you >consider >>>>>>what >>>>>>>>>I am trying to say so that you may look outside >>>of >>>>>>>>>your box and perhaps realize that you have some >>>>>hard >>>>>>>>>questioning to do of yourselves. Wake up and >>save >>>>>>>>>yourselves. >>>>>>>>>As others have boldly said before me, it is >time >>>>to >>>>>>>>>jump ship. >>>>>>>>>Get plenty of calcium. >>>>>>>>>Scoff and laugh at me but the truth remains, >>>>Scaife >>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>>a hollow child without real conviction. He is >>>>>driven >>>>>>>>>by revenge apparently due to deep seated >>>childhood >>>>>>>>>trauma because of his cold and sarcastic, >>>>alcoholic >>>>>>>>>mother, Sarah. >>>>>>>>>Or maybe: >>>>>>>>><a rel=nofollow target=_blank >>>>>>>>>href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.p >h >>p >>>? >>>>s >>>>>h >>>>>>o >>>>>>>w >>>>>>>>t >>>>>>>>>opic=11403">http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/i >n >>d >>>e >>>>x >>>>>. >>>>>>p >>>>>>>h >>>>>>>>p >>>>>>>>>?showtopic=11403</a> >>>>>>>>>Read post 2 on this site. Scary! >>>>>>>>>Travel. >>>>>>>>>You are part of Scaife's insane world. Without >>>his >>>>>>>>>dependable minions, YOU, he would not be able >to >>>>>>>>>function as he does. >>>>>>>>>You can NOT consider yourselves to be >>journalists >>>>>>and >>>>>>>>>be part of Scaife's lunacy. >>>>>>>>>Scream all you want and beat the hell out of me >>>>but >>>>>>>at >>>>>>>>>the same time, look into your soul and decide >>>what >>>>>>>how >>>>>>>>>you wish others to see and judge you and how >you >>>>>>>judge >>>>>>>>>yourselves. >>>>>>>>>Don't mess too much with your hair. >>>>>>>>>I sickens me to see my ex-fellow journalists at >>>>the >>>>>>>>>Trib smoozing and a--kissing anything Scaife >>>comes >>>>>>up >>>>>>>>>with. >>>>>>>>>I was going to mention those that I am >>>>particularly >>>>>>>>>sickened with but you know the cast of >>>characters, >>>>>>>>>from Frank Craig on down to the wanna-be >>>phototech >>>>>>>who >>>>>>>>>would sell his soul to gain recognition from >>>>>Scaife. >>>>>>>>>Research Scaife's life. Lot's of stuff on the >>>WWW. >>>>>>>>>Get out while you still have a soul. >>>>>>>>>But trust me on the sunscreen.

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