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Date Posted: 08:33:09 01/16/08 Wed
Author: Nessie
Subject: Re: trib pm (post mortem)
In reply to: Anything But Sober 's message, "Re: trib pm (post mortem)" on 18:50:04 01/15/08 Tue

>33? How about 13-1/2? Read this drivel and tell me
>that a 30 something year old journalist wrote it:
>"That said, one can understand how the Severe Weather
", either,", haha that's my favorite part! With writing like that, the Trib Kiddies have taken bad writing to new depths.

>Team might not have known what to make of the
>mysterious green blob quickly approaching the Green
>Zone. And the scores of fender benders during the
>morning commute should come as no surprise, either,
>considering that traffic reporters failed to warn
>suicide car bombers to take it easy out there.
>Bridges and overpasses always freeze first, you know.
>Even in the desert."
>The whole, um, story:
> >href="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/ne
>ws/tribpm/s_547571.html">http://www.pittsburghlive.com/
>x/pittsburghtrib/news/tribpm/s_547571.html

>
>>I can't think of a pm staffer who's even pushing 33.
>>
>>>The Trib PM is the result of an attempt at being
>>>"edgy" by Trib Kiddies who are pushing 40 and beyond.
>>>The problem with "edgy", which is connotative of
>>>having a sharp or biting edge and wit, is that
>concept
>>>is in a state of constant change and that makes it
>>>always elusive and then you must know, who at any
>>>given time, is defining what edgy is because that
>>>would be your target audience.
>>>A fine example is the myth of the "Sixties". In my
>>>estimation the defining depth of that label lasted
>for
>>>7 or 8 years; 1963 brought the Beatles and in 1970 or
>>>71, Kent State and the Pentagon papers. The end.
>Yeah,
>>>you might hear these things discussed occasionally,
>>>but Woodstock, Peter, Paul & Mary, Led Zeppelin, the
>>>Grateful Dead, the Beatles and Stones, Carnaby
>Street,
>>>psychedelia, Martin Luther King, the Haight-Ashbury
>>>and Don and Deanna On Bleecker Street (1982-85 -wow,
>>>that lasted a long time) all have one thing in
>common,
>>>their time is past.
>>>And the Trib Kiddies time is also past. The "edgy"
>>>thing is self defeating. What are you going to do to
>>>fix it? Hire new Trib Kiddies who are 20 years old or
>>>younger which is what this edgy thing is all about.
>>>First you'll have to use human resources to
>distiguish
>>>the cool kids from the nerds because only nerds are
>>>cool now but that too is changing, and old Walt from
>>>HR ain't never going gonna be up with that.
>>>It's a losing proposition. Good journalism is not.
>Put
>>>out some good journalism, paper or online, tailored
>>>toward this region and you will have all the edginess
>>>you need.
>>>Even Don and Deanna read the NY Times (while lunching
>>>on love burgers).
>>>
>>>>>The only advantage the Trib p.m. has over the PG is
>>>>>that people enjoy reading Trib p.m. That's all.
>>>>
>>>>Sure.
>>>>All what? 15 people who read the Trib PM?

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