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Date Posted: 21:43:39 01/16/08 Wed
Author: Jethro Tull
Subject: Re: trib pm (post mortem)
In reply to: um 's message, "Re: trib pm (post mortem)" on 16:41:53 01/16/08 Wed

I think young Gerald Bostock was singing about you:

Really don't mind if you sit this one out.
My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT.
I may make you feel but I can't make you think.
Your sperm's in the gutter -- your love's in the sink.
So you ride yourselves over the fields and
you make all your animal deals and
your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.
And the sand-castle virtues are all swept away in
the tidal destruction
the moral melee.
The elastic retreat rings the close of play as the last wave uncovers
the newfangled way.
But your new shoes are worn at the heels and
your suntan does rapidly peel and
your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.

>Thanks for proving my point.
>
>>Um, it's okay! It is generally understood that the
>>young Trib defenders have very little experience and
>>will make thoughtless outlandish comments.
>>You are forgiven, but what's up with the "You people
>>really need to pull the sticks out of your asses."?
>>Whew! Being a little defensive is okay but damnnnn,
>>are you having a bit of an insecurity problem?
>>My advice -think about what it is you want to say
>>before you say it. And do a little research. Otherwise
>>your comments will read like the Trib.
>>
>>>You people really need to pull the sticks out of your
>>>asses. I didn't think most of the staffers were
>>>nearing 40, but obviously I was wrong. I didn't claim
>>>I had the inside track. I didn't cast it as though I
>>>knew for sure, either. Anyway -- good for you,
>though.
>>>You caught a Tribber in a "lie!" (??) That's A1,
>hands
>>>down.
>>>BTW, I don't know that Jennifer! writes for the p.m.
>>>exclusively. She's an insert that Trib and Gateway
>>>uses.
>>>
>>>>how bout Knox and Pastrick to start? I won't give
>>>>their ages but 33 ain't but a memory like Rolling
>>Rock
>>>>from Latrobe.
>>>>don't know about anymore pm "staffers" per say but
>>how
>>>>bout often contributers like old Mike Seate and, say
>>>>it ain't so, Joe Starkey and who writes that Family
>>>>Inc. thing? Jennifer Antkowiak? yeah, she's not 33
>>>>yet. and Jessica Severs, I won't tell you how old
>but
>>>>it's somewhere 'tween 32 and 34.
>>>>the truth is the truth and when a trib kiddie makes
>>>>untruthful statements such as yours it's no wonder
>>the
>>>>trib has such a high unbelievability factor.
>>>>
>>>>>I can't think of a pm staffer who's even pushing
>>33.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The Trib PM is the result of an attempt at being
>>>>>>"edgy" by Trib Kiddies who are pushing 40 and
>>>beyond.
>>>>>>The problem with "edgy", which is connotative of
>>>>>>having a sharp or biting edge and wit, is that
>>>>concept
>>>>>>is in a state of constant change and that makes it
>>>>>>always elusive and then you must know, who at any
>>>>>>given time, is defining what edgy is because that
>>>>>>would be your target audience.
>>>>>>A fine example is the myth of the "Sixties". In my
>>>>>>estimation the defining depth of that label lasted
>>>>for
>>>>>>7 or 8 years; 1963 brought the Beatles and in 1970
>>>or
>>>>>>71, Kent State and the Pentagon papers. The end.
>>>>Yeah,
>>>>>>you might hear these things discussed
>occasionally,
>>>>>>but Woodstock, Peter, Paul & Mary, Led Zeppelin,
>>the
>>>>>>Grateful Dead, the Beatles and Stones, Carnaby
>>>>Street,
>>>>>>psychedelia, Martin Luther King, the
>Haight-Ashbury
>>>>>>and Don and Deanna On Bleecker Street (1982-85
>>-wow,
>>>>>>that lasted a long time) all have one thing in
>>>>common,
>>>>>>their time is past.
>>>>>>And the Trib Kiddies time is also past. The "edgy"
>>>>>>thing is self defeating. What are you going to do
>>to
>>>>>>fix it? Hire new Trib Kiddies who are 20 years old
>>>or
>>>>>>younger which is what this edgy thing is all
>about.
>>>>>>First you'll have to use human resources to
>>>>distiguish
>>>>>>the cool kids from the nerds because only nerds
>are
>>>>>>cool now but that too is changing, and old Walt
>>from
>>>>>>HR ain't never going gonna be up with that.
>>>>>>It's a losing proposition. Good journalism is not.
>>>>Put
>>>>>>out some good journalism, paper or online,
>tailored
>>>>>>toward this region and you will have all the
>>>edginess
>>>>>>you need.
>>>>>>Even Don and Deanna read the NY Times (while
>>>lunching
>>>>>>on love burgers).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The only advantage the Trib p.m. has over the PG
>>>is
>>>>>>>>that people enjoy reading Trib p.m. That's all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sure.
>>>>>>>All what? 15 people who read the Trib PM?

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