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Date Posted: 09:35:29 04/05/09 Sun
Author: Onlooker
Subject: Re: Scaife -Kangas Death Anniversary
In reply to: sp? 's message, "Re: Scaife -Kangas Death Anniversary" on 17:29:58 04/01/09 Wed

I found the Kangas piece quite fascinating. Mysteries have a timeless quality about them, don't you think? As to waiting for anniversaries to write about them -- well, I suspect it has to do with a paper's sense of obligation to revist such things at such times. Really, though, a good story is a good story.

Referring to your own message, I see that you judge intelligence based on someone's ability to spell. You probably don't know that Hemingway had trouble spelling. I guess he couldn't write either.

I don't judge that way. I don't even judge intelligence by the ability to punctuate correctly. If I did, what would I make of the way you punctuated "fodder" in your own message?

And in another of your postings, you call yourself a jerk. I must admit you nailed that one. And a small-minded one, at that. By the way, how do you feel about people who wash their hands every 15 minutes or so?



>I don't really understand how it is that people want
>to have serious conversations on this forum, and
>riddle their comments with errors -- and then expect
>to be taken seriously. You do realize that part of a
>journalist's job is to be able to construct a
>sentence, don't you? I'm sorry, but I happen to judge
>intelligence based on someone's ability to spell. So
>you can call me whatever you want. Your opinion isn't
>really breaking my heart right now. You can't even
>write.
>And, as far as your "fodder", you basically
>cut-and-copied an old post, and bring nothing new to
>the discussion. If you think there's something going
>on, well, then. Assuming you work at a newspaper, why
>don't you just do a story about it, whatever you
>determine "it" is.
>P.S.: God, I hope you misspelled "faltering" on
>purpose. Or that you're posting from England.
>
>>Yeah, I also wrote "10 years since the anniversary."
>>Sorry I don't have my own Trib Kiddie to proofread for
>>me.
>>
>>But I can handle your takedown. What bothers me is
>>that I gave you all that fodder and your retort is
>>concerned with a stupid misspelling.
>>
>>No wonder papers are faultering -too many reporters
>>like you waiting in the wings to hang your comrades
>>for goofy infractions instead of doing something of
>>substance.
>>
>>It's been 10 years since Kangas died. Duggan's and his
>>suspicious deaths have all but been forgotten. Scaife
>>is still at the helm of the biggest propaganda machine
>>in history. And you, Mr. Reporter, are making pathetic
>>grammar school jokes about a stupid mistake.
>>
>>
>>>Ah, if only someone was more diligent about his
>>>spelling. Homocide? Are you trying to accuse Scaife
>of
>>>something you'd like to share with the class?
>>>
>>>>It's been 10 years since the anniversary of Steve
>>>>Kangas's death, perhaps suicide, perhaps homocide.
>>>>Kangas ran a liberal website, critical of
>>>>conservatives, including Dick Scaife. Interesting
>man
>>>>and story.
>>>>
>>>>Just throwing this out there since I don't recall
>>many
>>>>follow ups except for a post on this site from 2005:
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2005/1
>1
>>/
>>>s
>>>>teve_kangas_st_1.htm">http://www.seeingtheforest.com
>/
>>a
>>>r
>>>>chives/2005/11/steve_kangas_st_1.htm
Perhaps an
>>>>enterprising soul may be interested in having their
>>>>paper do a follow up.
>>>>
>>>>Kangas's body was found, sitting slumped on a toilet
>>>>with a gunshot wound to the head, on the 39th floor,
>>>>60 ft. from the door of the Pittsburgh offices of
>>none
>>>>other than Dick Scaife. No above ambient gun powder
>>>>residue was found on his hands. Deputy Police Chief
>>>>Charles Moffett said the suicide/homocide was "under
>>>>investigation in the homicide section," at the time.
>>>>
>>>>"This isn't the first time Scaife has been linked to
>>a
>>>>strange suicide: in 1973 former mentor and close
>>>>friend Pittsburgh District Attorney Robert Duggan,
>>>>under Federal investigation for Mob payoffs, was
>>found
>>>>shot to death with a shotgun bearing no
>>fingerprints."
>>>>He "shot himself on his hidden farm property on the
>>>>day the grand jury returned the indictment for
>>>>corruption." "Scaife had cut all ties with Duggan,
>>who
>>>>had married Scaife's sister Cordelia shortly before
>>>>his death." -Chris Potter, Managin Editor, of the
>>>>Pittsburgh City Paper, 1999
>>>>
>>>>Really interesting story by PG's John Craig on
>>Sunday,
>>>>March 28, 1999 with the sub-head:
>>>>Dick Scaife couldn't keep his probe of Kangas a
>>secret
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.post-gazette.com/forum/19990328edcr
>a
>>i
>>>g
>>>>4.asp">http://www.post-gazette.com/forum/19990328edc
>r
>>a
>>>i
>>>>g4.asp

>>>>
>>>>Interesting also is a summary of Scaife's scandals
>on
>>>>Kangas's website from -well, from 1999 or prior to
>>>>1999. Interesting that it is still online.
>>>>Head lined with -Myth: There’s no "vast right wing
>>>>conspiracy" to get Clinton.
>>>>Fact: Richard Mellon Scaife and the Republican
>>>>Establishment have poured millions into the effort.
>>>>(some excepts)
>>>>In 1997, Scaife donated $550,000 to Judicial Watch,
>>>>whose director, Larry Klayman, has filed 18 lawsuits
>>>>against the Clinton Administration. (10)
>>>>
>>>>Scaife also assigned one of his newspaper’s
>>reporters,
>>>>Christopher Ruddy, to a full-time, ongoing
>>>>investigation into the deaths of Vince Foster and
>Ron
>>>>Brown, trying to find evidence that the Clintons
>>>>murdered them.
>>>>
>>>>Scaife also gave $2.4 million to American Spectator
>>>>magazine. This money went to create the "Arkansas
>>>>Project," a massive investigation trying to dig up
>>>>dirt on Clinton’s past. The Arkansas Project gained
>>>>notoriety when it was revealed that David Hale, the
>>>>only Whitewater witness who claimed personal
>>knowledge
>>>>of Clinton’s wrong-doing, had been paid at least
>>>>$5,000 by Parker Dozhier, one of operatives of the
>>>>Arkansas Project. Parker’s girlfriend and her
>17-year
>>>>old son both claim they saw Parker give Scaife-money
>>>>to Hale on numerous occasions. When reporters
>>>>confronted Parker, he warned that the 17-year old
>son
>>>>"was destined to become a chalk outline somewhere."
>>>>Alarmed by such threats and prospects of witness
>>>>tampering, the Justice Department has ordered an
>>>>investigation, the results of which are yet to be
>>>>revealed.
>>>>
>>>>Scaife has also given $450,000 over three years to
>>the
>>>>Independent Women’s Forum. (13) This is a
>>>>media-booking agency that heavily seeds female
>>>>conservative pundits into the media. (This is an
>>>>attempt to reduce the "gender gap" that Democrats
>>>>enjoy in the polls.) The IWF has given generous
>>public
>>>>support to Paula Jones in her lawsuit. In fact, one
>>>>IWF pundit, Ann Coulter, heard at least one of the
>>>>Linda Tripp tapes before it even reached Ken Starr.
>>>>This proved that she was deeply involved with the
>>>>Paula Jones’ camp (who received the tapes first),
>>even
>>>>though she was pretending to be an objective
>>>>commentator on the scandal in the media.
>>>>
>>>>But perhaps most alarming is Scaife’s ties to
>>>>independent prosecutor Kenneth Starr. Starr’s
>>>>conflicts of interest are almost too numerous to
>>>>mention. Early on, Starr had been given an
>open-ended
>>>>job offer as the dean of Pepperdine University’s
>>>>Schools of Law and Public Policy. At first, Starr
>>>>planned to accept the job after finishing his
>>>>investigation. But it turns out this school is a
>>heavy
>>>>recipient of Scaife money, and the resulting media
>>>>scandal finally convinced Starr to refuse the job.
>>But
>>>>the appearance of Scaife attempting to pay off Starr
>>>>for getting Clinton lingers.
>>>>
>>>>There are many other connections between the two
>men.
>>>>Between 1988 and 1996, Scaife gave $3 million to the
>>>>conservative Washington Legal Foundation, where
>Starr
>>>>sits on the board. Scaife also gave $920,000 to the
>>>>Federalist Society, a conservative legal
>organization
>>>>where Starr is a member. Scaife donated $650,000 to
>>>>the Landmark Legal Foundation between 1992 and 1996;
>>>>Starr has done work for this organization, which has
>>>>helped Paula Jones in her lawsuit. (15) Starr also
>>>>prepared a legal brief for the Paula Jones lawsuit
>on
>>>>behalf of the Independent Women’s Forum, which is
>>>>substantially funded by Scaife.
>>>>
>>>>Scaife’s personality profile is similarly
>>interesting.
>>>>
>>>>Pat Minarcin knows Scaife well, after serving as one
>>>>of his magazine editors. "He [Scaife] has the
>>>>emotional maturity of a very angry 12-year-old, and
>>he
>>>>has all this money and he can do whatever he wants
>>>>with it," says Minarcin. While the magazine was
>>>>operating, "[Scaife] presented a list of people who
>>he
>>>>wanted the magazine to attack, a kind of enemies
>>>>list." Minarcin eventually resigned.
>>>>(Kiddies -still want to argue that the Trib is
>>>>non-biased with no direct control of content by
>>>>Scaife?)
>>>>
>>>>It’s also well-known that Scaife is obsessed with
>>>>proving that Vince Foster’s suicide was actually a
>>>>murder. He goes so far as to call his death "the
>>>>Rosetta Stone of the Clinton administration." But
>>why?
>>>>Scaife’s history is revealing. In the 1960s, he
>>>>financially supported Robert Duggan as a candidate
>>for
>>>>district attorney. The two men angrily parted
>company
>>>>after Duggan came under investigation for
>corruption.
>>>>To make matters worse, Duggan then eloped with
>>>>Scaife’s sister, Cordelia. A few months later,
>Duggan
>>>>was found dead, apparently by suicide. But the
>>shotgun
>>>>used was found several feet away from Duggan’s body,
>>>>and it had no fingerprints.
>>>>
>>>>Another interesting site:
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/steve.htm">
>h
>>t
>>>t
>>>>p://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/steve.htm


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