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Date Posted: 18:13:32 04/05/09 Sun
Author: Tim Leary
Subject: Re: Scaife -Kangas Death Anniversary
In reply to: sp? 's message, "Re: Scaife -Kangas Death Anniversary" on 05:58:07 04/02/09 Thu

"Ok, then," what? You have just been ridiculed, and for good reason. You can't see the forest for the T's. Just another Trib kiddie copy desk hack, hung up on just about anything but substance. Style over substance is the standard at the Trib. Problem is, there isn't even any real style. The Trib, all imaginary, nothing is real. Leary, -We are dealing with the best-educated generation in history. But they've got a brain dressed up with nowhere to go.

>OK, then.
>
>>I stand by my message but if you choose a little
>>diversion, here goes. Just remember, you started
>this.
>>
>>"I don't really understand how it is that people"
>>-clean, clear, concise -Much better to write, "I don't
>>understand." "Really" is totally unnecessary.
>>
>>"How it is?" This phrase adds nothing to the sentence
>>so it is also unnecessary!
>>
>>"I don't really understand how it is that people want
>>to have serious conversations on this forum." Try this
>>for clarity, "I don't understand that people want to
>>have serious conversations on this forum."
>>
>>"On this forum, and riddle" "And riddle?" Did you mean
>>their comments are riddled with errors. "And riddle
>>their comments with," implies that the errors were
>>intentional. They weren't. In haste, I goofed.
>>
>>"With errors -- and then" What is with the "errors --
>>and?"
>>How about a simple comma after errors?
>>
>>"You do realize that part of a journalist's job is to
>>be able to construct a sentence, don't you?" Basically
>>this asks two questions when only one question would
>>do. Either, "You do realize that part of a
>>journalist's job is to be able to construct a
>>sentence," or Don't you realize that part of a
>>journalist's job is to be able to construct a
>>sentence?"
>>
>>"I'm sorry, but." This begs the question, "why would
>>you be sorry?"
>>
>>"But I happen to judge intelligence." Let me get this
>>straight, you "happen" to judge intelligence, or do
>>you mean you judge intelligence? You "happen" to use a
>>lot of unnecessary words in your writing.
>>
>>"So you can call me." And, so, or, perhaps you may
>>choose to start a sentence with those words although
>>there should be a good compelling reason to do so. The
>>key, if you must, should be to do so very
>>infrequently.
>>
>>"You can't even write." Why not, "you can't write?"
>>(clean, clear, concise!)
>>
>>"And, as far as your "fodder", you basically
>>cut-and-copied an old post, and bring nothing new to
>>the discussion." What-old-post-did-I-cut-and-copy? Was
>>this forum around 10 years ago?
>>
>>"P.S.: God, I hope you misspelled "faltering" on
>>purpose. Or that you're posting from England." 1 -I am
>>not God. 2 -Why would you hope that I misspelled a
>>word? 3 -"Or that you're posting from England." Does
>>this grouping of words even remotely resemble a
>>sentence?
>>
>>I have to hand it to you, you must be a great writer
>>because as Isaac Asimov said, "A good writer can break
>>any rule."
>>
>>>I don't really understand how it is that people want
>>>to have serious conversations on this forum, and
>>>riddle their comments with errors -- and then expect
>>>to be taken seriously. You do realize that part of a
>>>journalist's job is to be able to construct a
>>>sentence, don't you? I'm sorry, but I happen to judge
>>>intelligence based on someone's ability to spell. So
>>>you can call me whatever you want. Your opinion isn't
>>>really breaking my heart right now. You can't even
>>>write.
>>>And, as far as your "fodder", you basically
>>>cut-and-copied an old post, and bring nothing new to
>>>the discussion. If you think there's something going
>>>on, well, then. Assuming you work at a newspaper, why
>>>don't you just do a story about it, whatever you
>>>determine "it" is.
>>>P.S.: God, I hope you misspelled "faltering" on
>>>purpose. Or that you're posting from England.
>>>
>>>>Yeah, I also wrote "10 years since the anniversary."
>>>>Sorry I don't have my own Trib Kiddie to proofread
>>for
>>>>me.
>>>>
>>>>But I can handle your takedown. What bothers me is
>>>>that I gave you all that fodder and your retort is
>>>>concerned with a stupid misspelling.
>>>>
>>>>No wonder papers are faultering -too many reporters
>>>>like you waiting in the wings to hang your comrades
>>>>for goofy infractions instead of doing something of
>>>>substance.
>>>>
>>>>It's been 10 years since Kangas died. Duggan's and
>>his
>>>>suspicious deaths have all but been forgotten.
>Scaife
>>>>is still at the helm of the biggest propaganda
>>machine
>>>>in history. And you, Mr. Reporter, are making
>>pathetic
>>>>grammar school jokes about a stupid mistake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ah, if only someone was more diligent about his
>>>>>spelling. Homocide? Are you trying to accuse Scaife
>>>of
>>>>>something you'd like to share with the class?
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's been 10 years since the anniversary of Steve
>>>>>>Kangas's death, perhaps suicide, perhaps homocide.
>>>>>>Kangas ran a liberal website, critical of
>>>>>>conservatives, including Dick Scaife. Interesting
>>>man
>>>>>>and story.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just throwing this out there since I don't recall
>>>>many
>>>>>>follow ups except for a post on this site from
>>2005:
>>>>>> >>>>>>href="http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2005
>/
>>1
>>>1
>>>>/
>>>>>s
>>>>>>teve_kangas_st_1.htm">http://www.seeingtheforest.c
>o
>>m
>>>/
>>>>a
>>>>>r
>>>>>>chives/2005/11/steve_kangas_st_1.htm
Perhaps
>>an
>>>>>>enterprising soul may be interested in having
>their
>>>>>>paper do a follow up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kangas's body was found, sitting slumped on a
>>toilet
>>>>>>with a gunshot wound to the head, on the 39th
>>floor,
>>>>>>60 ft. from the door of the Pittsburgh offices of
>>>>none
>>>>>>other than Dick Scaife. No above ambient gun
>powder
>>>>>>residue was found on his hands. Deputy Police
>Chief
>>>>>>Charles Moffett said the suicide/homocide was
>>"under
>>>>>>investigation in the homicide section," at the
>>time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"This isn't the first time Scaife has been linked
>>to
>>>>a
>>>>>>strange suicide: in 1973 former mentor and close
>>>>>>friend Pittsburgh District Attorney Robert Duggan,
>>>>>>under Federal investigation for Mob payoffs, was
>>>>found
>>>>>>shot to death with a shotgun bearing no
>>>>fingerprints."
>>>>>>He "shot himself on his hidden farm property on
>the
>>>>>>day the grand jury returned the indictment for
>>>>>>corruption." "Scaife had cut all ties with Duggan,
>>>>who
>>>>>>had married Scaife's sister Cordelia shortly
>before
>>>>>>his death." -Chris Potter, Managin Editor, of the
>>>>>>Pittsburgh City Paper, 1999
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Really interesting story by PG's John Craig on
>>>>Sunday,
>>>>>>March 28, 1999 with the sub-head:
>>>>>>Dick Scaife couldn't keep his probe of Kangas a
>>>>secret
>>>>>> >>>>>>href="http://www.post-gazette.com/forum/19990328ed
>c
>>r
>>>a
>>>>i
>>>>>g
>>>>>>4.asp">http://www.post-gazette.com/forum/19990328e
>d
>>c
>>>r
>>>>a
>>>>>i
>>>>>>g4.asp

>>>>>>
>>>>>>Interesting also is a summary of Scaife's scandals
>>>on
>>>>>>Kangas's website from -well, from 1999 or prior to
>>>>>>1999. Interesting that it is still online.
>>>>>>Head lined with -Myth: There’s no "vast right wing
>>>>>>conspiracy" to get Clinton.
>>>>>>Fact: Richard Mellon Scaife and the Republican
>>>>>>Establishment have poured millions into the
>effort.
>>>>>>(some excepts)
>>>>>>In 1997, Scaife donated $550,000 to Judicial
>Watch,
>>>>>>whose director, Larry Klayman, has filed 18
>>lawsuits
>>>>>>against the Clinton Administration. (10)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Scaife also assigned one of his newspaper’s
>>>>reporters,
>>>>>>Christopher Ruddy, to a full-time, ongoing
>>>>>>investigation into the deaths of Vince Foster and
>>>Ron
>>>>>>Brown, trying to find evidence that the Clintons
>>>>>>murdered them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Scaife also gave $2.4 million to American
>Spectator
>>>>>>magazine. This money went to create the "Arkansas
>>>>>>Project," a massive investigation trying to dig up
>>>>>>dirt on Clinton’s past. The Arkansas Project
>gained
>>>>>>notoriety when it was revealed that David Hale,
>the
>>>>>>only Whitewater witness who claimed personal
>>>>knowledge
>>>>>>of Clinton’s wrong-doing, had been paid at least
>>>>>>$5,000 by Parker Dozhier, one of operatives of the
>>>>>>Arkansas Project. Parker’s girlfriend and her
>>>17-year
>>>>>>old son both claim they saw Parker give
>>Scaife-money
>>>>>>to Hale on numerous occasions. When reporters
>>>>>>confronted Parker, he warned that the 17-year old
>>>son
>>>>>>"was destined to become a chalk outline
>somewhere."
>>>>>>Alarmed by such threats and prospects of witness
>>>>>>tampering, the Justice Department has ordered an
>>>>>>investigation, the results of which are yet to be
>>>>>>revealed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Scaife has also given $450,000 over three years to
>>>>the
>>>>>>Independent Women’s Forum. (13) This is a
>>>>>>media-booking agency that heavily seeds female
>>>>>>conservative pundits into the media. (This is an
>>>>>>attempt to reduce the "gender gap" that Democrats
>>>>>>enjoy in the polls.) The IWF has given generous
>>>>public
>>>>>>support to Paula Jones in her lawsuit. In fact,
>one
>>>>>>IWF pundit, Ann Coulter, heard at least one of the
>>>>>>Linda Tripp tapes before it even reached Ken
>Starr.
>>>>>>This proved that she was deeply involved with the
>>>>>>Paula Jones’ camp (who received the tapes first),
>>>>even
>>>>>>though she was pretending to be an objective
>>>>>>commentator on the scandal in the media.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But perhaps most alarming is Scaife’s ties to
>>>>>>independent prosecutor Kenneth Starr. Starr’s
>>>>>>conflicts of interest are almost too numerous to
>>>>>>mention. Early on, Starr had been given an
>>>open-ended
>>>>>>job offer as the dean of Pepperdine University’s
>>>>>>Schools of Law and Public Policy. At first, Starr
>>>>>>planned to accept the job after finishing his
>>>>>>investigation. But it turns out this school is a
>>>>heavy
>>>>>>recipient of Scaife money, and the resulting media
>>>>>>scandal finally convinced Starr to refuse the job.
>>>>But
>>>>>>the appearance of Scaife attempting to pay off
>>Starr
>>>>>>for getting Clinton lingers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are many other connections between the two
>>>men.
>>>>>>Between 1988 and 1996, Scaife gave $3 million to
>>the
>>>>>>conservative Washington Legal Foundation, where
>>>Starr
>>>>>>sits on the board. Scaife also gave $920,000 to
>the
>>>>>>Federalist Society, a conservative legal
>>>organization
>>>>>>where Starr is a member. Scaife donated $650,000
>to
>>>>>>the Landmark Legal Foundation between 1992 and
>>1996;
>>>>>>Starr has done work for this organization, which
>>has
>>>>>>helped Paula Jones in her lawsuit. (15) Starr also
>>>>>>prepared a legal brief for the Paula Jones lawsuit
>>>on
>>>>>>behalf of the Independent Women’s Forum, which is
>>>>>>substantially funded by Scaife.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Scaife’s personality profile is similarly
>>>>interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pat Minarcin knows Scaife well, after serving as
>>one
>>>>>>of his magazine editors. "He [Scaife] has the
>>>>>>emotional maturity of a very angry 12-year-old,
>and
>>>>he
>>>>>>has all this money and he can do whatever he wants
>>>>>>with it," says Minarcin. While the magazine was
>>>>>>operating, "[Scaife] presented a list of people
>who
>>>>he
>>>>>>wanted the magazine to attack, a kind of enemies
>>>>>>list." Minarcin eventually resigned.
>>>>>>(Kiddies -still want to argue that the Trib is
>>>>>>non-biased with no direct control of content by
>>>>>>Scaife?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It’s also well-known that Scaife is obsessed with
>>>>>>proving that Vince Foster’s suicide was actually a
>>>>>>murder. He goes so far as to call his death "the
>>>>>>Rosetta Stone of the Clinton administration." But
>>>>why?
>>>>>>Scaife’s history is revealing. In the 1960s, he
>>>>>>financially supported Robert Duggan as a candidate
>>>>for
>>>>>>district attorney. The two men angrily parted
>>>company
>>>>>>after Duggan came under investigation for
>>>corruption.
>>>>>>To make matters worse, Duggan then eloped with
>>>>>>Scaife’s sister, Cordelia. A few months later,
>>>Duggan
>>>>>>was found dead, apparently by suicide. But the
>>>>shotgun
>>>>>>used was found several feet away from Duggan’s
>>body,
>>>>>>and it had no fingerprints.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Another interesting site:
>>>>>> >>>>>>href="http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/steve.htm
>"
>>>
>>>h
>>>>t
>>>>>t
>>>>>>p://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/steve.htm


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